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Old Oct-04-2009, 09:32
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South Florida Newbie Outdoor Grow Log :-D

The following pics are pre and post transplant, the last pic is the 2 that were transplanted last week.

The soil mixture is purely organic, used a combination of:
1part Peat moss
1part perlite
1part Vermiculite
The soil itself is not miracle gro, lol... no extra unwanted nutes for me :-)

I just started feeding them full strength fox farm nutes, 1/2 strength for first 2 weeks ( they are 3 1/2 weeks old)

I was also wondering, seeing as how its so late in the season, how long they would have to veg (frost is not a problem here in south fla.) before i can expect them to start flowering, seeing as how we are in autumnal equinox.

Any comments or criticism is welcome!!!!
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Old Oct-04-2009, 09:34
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Whoops forgot a couple pics (taken at night)
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Old Oct-04-2009, 12:20
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*bump*

Was also wanting to start applying the FIM technique , anyone who has experience doing this before have any tips?
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Old Oct-04-2009, 17:08
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how's the winter over there? how cold does it get because you will be going well into January most likely

They will start to flower as soon as they are mature enough if the lighting is correct

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Old Oct-04-2009, 17:27
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well more like mid south FLA, i may have to keep close watch as last year we had record lows of about 29 degrees.

If all goes well this winter should pass by with the lowest of 35 0_o

As of now it might as well be 12/12, the plants themselves get about 9 hours of direct light a day

Im also planning on starting an indoor grow as well soon.. seeing as how these are just bagseed, id like to step up my genetic game and get some real beauties. Gonna be ordering the Nirvana Chrystal, looks yummy :-).

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Old Oct-04-2009, 18:17
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anyone who has experience doing this before have any tips?
I'd say hold off on that. Your plants are probably about to start showing flowers. Unless height's a real concern (like if the neighbors can see 'em) you'll probably hurt your yield by fimming or topping so small, right before flower like this.

You need to get 1 plant in 1 pot ASAP. That's a much bigger concern.

You should also beat back that undergrowth around your plants, unless you're trying to hide 'em in there. You'll get more bugs, etc., and your plants are having to compete for light, space, resources with each other and the surrounding vegetation.

And "organic" is overrated, IMO. FYI:

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The largest and oldest vermiculite mine in the United States was started in the 1920s, at Libby, Montana, and the vermiculite was sold under the commercial name Zonolite. The Zonolite brand and the mine was acquired by the W.R. Grace Company in 1963. Mining operations at the Libby site stopped in 1990 in response to asbestos contamination. While in operation, the Libby mine may have produced 80% of the world's supply of vermiculite.[4]
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You can grow year round outdoors in Florida, and now is the perfect time down there.

BTW, pic number 4 is an Indica.
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I'd say you're high, those are a May/June harvest according to the pics. The light cycle in Florida is perfect for an early outdoor grow.

I resided down there for almost 10 years.

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I'd say hold off on that. Your plants are probably about to start showing flowers. Unless height's a real concern (like if the neighbors can see 'em) you'll probably hurt your yield by fimming or topping so small, right before flower like this.

You need to get 1 plant in 1 pot ASAP. That's a much bigger concern.

You should also beat back that undergrowth around your plants, unless you're trying to hide 'em in there. You'll get more bugs, etc., and your plants are having to compete for light, space, resources with each other and the surrounding vegetation.

And "organic" is overrated, IMO. FYI:


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You'll have to transplant those eventually.

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The following pics are pre and post transplant, the last pic is the 2 that were transplanted last week.

The soil mixture is purely organic, used a combination of:
1part Peat moss
1part perlite
1part Vermiculite
The soil itself is not miracle gro, lol... no extra unwanted nutes for me :-)

I just started feeding them full strength fox farm nutes, 1/2 strength for first 2 weeks ( they are 3 1/2 weeks old)

I was also wondering, seeing as how its so late in the season, how long they would have to veg (frost is not a problem here in south fla.) before i can expect them to start flowering, seeing as how we are in autumnal equinox.

Any comments or criticism is welcome!!!!
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Old Oct-04-2009, 20:49
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You should also beat back that undergrowth around your plants, unless you're trying to hide 'em in there. You'll get more bugs, etc., and your plants are having to compete for light, space, resources with each other and the surrounding vegetation.
Yeah ive noticed the pests are becoming a slight annoyance, i have been using Safer Garden spray on the plants at night, but theres still little tiny flies that like to run around them as well as some tiny tiny spiders starting webs between pots, i went out with a chemical pest spray and sprayed around the area. But yeah, trimming the site down was a thought i had, thanks for the support!
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Old Oct-04-2009, 21:17
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No problem.

I can see in one of the pics that at least one of the pots has an attached saucer. Rip dat baby offa dere. Standing water's gonna make yer bug problem worse, and your growing medium mucky and sour. Bleah!

You could set the pots back in a saucer, then--just not attached to the pot. Gotta keep things clean and dry. The pot sitting right on the ground is no good, either. You'll have an ant relay race going pretty quick (or worse).

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Old Oct-04-2009, 23:53
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Yeah i hear ya, as far as ground pests go i spread ant poison amongst any and all piles i saw, i keep a close watch on these babies.. but yeah thats a good point about the saucer underneath, i never would have thought of that .
I have some other good news however, i went to go see my friend to pick up some fine greenery, and he bestowed upon me about 30 magical seeds Im not sure if i'll have enough materials for all of them, but soon.. soon.
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Old Oct-05-2009, 00:02
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Read up on cloning (taking cuttings). Fun and easy. Get one female plant and grow her cuttings for years. All guaranteed female, all mature and ready to flower as soon as they have roots! No need to pop 30 beans at once.
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Old Oct-05-2009, 00:27
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Hah yeah i hear ya, i only have supplies for 10 more anyways :-D, i just want to make sure i have a few girls out of the pack.

My second/main project im still working on is going to be my indoor grow whenever my seeds decide to come in the mail. Those are the ones im going to focus on cloning i just want to see all the different varieties that my collection of potent bagseeds produce.
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Old Oct-05-2009, 02:05
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Just be careful with your numbers. Lot of us on this board are legal med patients. No such thing where you are. State of FL got no patience, likes to consider everybody a trafficker, even med users.

25 plants and up is real serious there. Can't remember if it was minimum mandatory or automatic referral for federal prosecution or what, but it was heavy like a murder charge. Take your house, too. Nothin' to play with. Mos' peeps think fartin' around with bagseed just ain't worth the risks. They're considerable. Jus' sayin. Hermie
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Old Oct-05-2009, 10:40
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Ah to ease my mind and yours, i grow on a 6 acre property with 7 foot fences bordering my neighbors property. This is country Florida i live in
Just as well, paranoia is not getting the best of me here

As per your advice however i did transplant the 2 that were sharing a home, and removed the trays. I would be posting some pics but my camera eats batteries like nothing else. I'll have some new ones up soon.
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Old Oct-05-2009, 11:56
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Okay so heres some pics, they all are looking very healthy, i used a couple drops per/gal of superthrive and half strength nutes.

Ill be updating again soon
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i went out again today to inspect for those annoying little spiders, found a few hiding underneath the lower nodes of 2 of my plants, after i noticed the tips of the lower leaves were brown where they were sitting.

Im probably going to end up going to get the neem oil and start spraying them down with it.

I trimmed down the vegetation and sprayed more pest spray around the area, ants and crickets/grasshoppers are gone. As well i think i got the last of the spiders that found a home there.

just as well does anyone know how to get rid of flies? or ward them away from your area?
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Old Oct-06-2009, 17:22
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Okay so heres an interesting defect that im not too happy about, a couple of the lower leaves on 2 of the plants are looking nasty. The bugs are gone all but some little flies that like to hover around.

I wanna know what it is that is causing the leaves to decay like they are, and if i should just chop the branch etc.

Other than those 2, the other 7 are loving the hell out of their new homes, got about 2 inches in the last couple days.
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Better check this...

Looks like critters, maybe.

Can you get a shot of the underside of this leaf?

Got a magnifying glass to give yourself a better look?

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Old Oct-07-2009, 10:36
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You would think so, but no, i just checked them this morning, aside from the spot of decay on those leaves, it doesnt seem like its spreading, no bugs though (thank god). Would it be better for me to just let the plant heal itself? or just hack off the limb.
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Old Oct-07-2009, 15:51
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Soo today i went to my local home depot and picked up some supplies to being constructing my greenhouse. 2X4 8ft wooden stakes, some sheet plastic. The dimensions im using will be 7X5X7 , probably wont be finished till later this week, but if all goes well i should be able to eliminate alot of my concerns regarding the terrors of growing outdoors :-).
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Old Oct-08-2009, 15:23
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Well it turns out i need more sheet plastic to finish :-) but you can kind of get the idea of what im doing.

The family is doing very well , the decay apparently went away, flies still a problem, but hopefully wont be once i get tent finished. It gets around 94deg far. out there in that field.

any ideas welcome! fucking hate flies..
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MALE!!! BOOOO...

So one of my biggest subjects decided to start preflowering today.... multiple pods at the internodes... more than enough convincing after looking at other male preflower pics...

Im going to be moving this guy about 100yds away...

none of my others have started showing their sex yet.. but im praying for no more males
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Old Oct-09-2009, 12:09
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