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Good one Italiano, thanks. Will edit that into my copy, or into it's own post if there's still an interest. Hydro never get's straight fresh water unless to correct a problem, right...? Quantity of runoff when watering/feeding came to mind also.

I guess it could get too complicated if worried about the minutia, but am seeking the perfect troubleshooting form, lol.

Any additional imput or suggestions is/are welcome. I'm not trying to step on anyones toes, just trying to make it a bit easier to follow the troubleshooting form.
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Good one Italiano, thanks. Will edit that into my copy, or into it's own post if there's still an interest. Hydro never get's straight fresh water unless to correct a problem, right...? Quantity of runoff when watering/feeding came to mind also.

I guess it could get too complicated if worried about the minutia, but am seeking the perfect troubleshooting form, lol.

Any additional imput or suggestions is/are welcome. I'm not trying to step on anyones toes, just trying to make it a bit easier to follow the troubleshooting form.
Umm not too sure, you mean like how often is the reservoir changed. I think hydro changes the reservoir every 2 weeks or so....Not sure as I'm not a hydro grower though.

Was also thinking to adding to the how often you water one.....how much water are your giving them also. Like 1 gallon water each pot....2 gallons water each pot, etc.

Let me reword how I was thinking this.....

"How often (times day/week) do you water and how much water is given to each container, pertaining to the size of the container?"

If ^^^^ makes any sense to ya......
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I am one my 3rd day of bubbleponics and am having problems from the get go.
second day of production i woke up to my ressi full of foam and the pump was barley working. does anyone know what causes this? Also i noticed my ressi water was stinky. what would cause that to happen. my ph level was 6.8 but now is 6.4 and slowly dropping do to ph down i put in today. I also live on well water is that good to use? My plant are starting to turn yellow at the bottoms and are drooping more everyday. Could i get some help or a push in the right direction. lights i am using are 2 cfl 46 watts and 2 led 56 watts.
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This isn't a troubleshooting forum, it's the troubleshooting form. Try copying and pasting the appropriate form to your new post in the Plant Problems section, answer the questions, and someone will be with you shortly.
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rusty, how about method for checking if your plants need water in the soil section? i know this might be a bit much.

also, in the hydro section, how about res temp?

that's the only things i saw.

i think it's awesome. sorry i didn't know your were gonna make one or i wouldn't have started another thread.

what about lighting schedule and and color spectrum? the spectrum might be a bit nit picky.

just trying to be productive. if i said something that's there i just missed it and disregard.


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Great troubleshooting form rewrite. I can see that a novice (or non-native English speaker) might find it easier than the coded form.
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Since I had a couple of days of free time lately, I came up with these revised* troubleshooting forms. (one for soil, one for hydro)
If you would kindly copy the appropriate section, (hydro or soil...not both) and post it into your own thread, and answer the questions.
The answers you provide to this form will help other's to get the full picture, and be better able to diagnose the problem. Answer all questions as best you can. Missing answers may lead to an inaccurate diagnosis and treatment plan.
Good luck to ya...
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Soil Grows - Peat Based

What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's)
.2) Distance from tops?
.3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...)
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...)
.8) Size of container.

Your nutrients and water:
.9) Source of water. (tap or filtered) What's it's ph?
10) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...)
11) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...)
12) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule.
13) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?
14) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...)
15) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate?
16) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph?
17) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray?

Your growroom:
18) Indoors or outdoors?
19) What size of closet, room or hut?
20) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?
21) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom?

Your strain:
22) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?)
23) From seeds or clones?
24) Is this an autoflower strain?



Hydro Grows - Coco, NFT, Hempy Bucket...

What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)
What type of hydro set-up are you running?

Your Equipment:
A) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's)
B) Distance from tops?
C) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...)
D) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?
E) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?
F) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?
G) Size of reservoir?

Your nutrients and water:
H) Source of water. (tap or filtered) What's it's ph?
I) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule.
J) What is the ec/ppm of your unadjusted tap (or filtered) water?
K) What is the ec/ppm of your nutrient solution?
L) What is the temperature of your nutrient solution? (reservoir high and low temps)
M) Does your ec/ppm show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check?
N) Does the ph fluctuate?
O) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you
spray? (Just after lights come on, just before they go out...)
P) How often do you replace reservoir water/nutes?

Your growroom:
Q) What size of closet, room or hut?
R) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?
S) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom?
T) Are the roots long and white, or brown and slimy?

Your strain:
U) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?)
V) From seeds or clones?[/QUOTE]
W) Is this an autoflower strain?
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looks good rusty. now if we can get a sticky! anyone? anyone? anyone with sticky ablility slap a sticky on that thing!

rusty, what do you think? should it be copied and pasted in with questions? i guess what i'm getting as is a set of directions for people to read BEFORE (hopefully) they start to fill it out. for a standard of uniformity, ya know?

looks good!


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maybe one for out door like environment,hours of shade, direct sun, in the ground, in a pot, condition of local soil if mixed and maybe locally grown crops


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rusty, what do you think? should it be copied and pasted in with questions? i guess what i'm getting as is a set of directions for people to read BEFORE (hopefully) they start to fill it out. for a standard of uniformity, ya know?
If they copy and paste, they can easily provide answers after each question. At least I'd think so...and the easier they make us understand their circumstances, the better the chance of their success. (neatness counts, and detention if work not shown) Answers in bold would be nice, too. Easier to scan the list.

But if history is any indication, it'll get filled out many different ways. Sort of a quasi Rorschach test, lol.


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maybe one for out door like environment,hours of shade, direct sun, in the ground, in a pot, condition of local soil if mixed and maybe locally grown crops
Well, someone with outdoor experience could likely throw one together with more insight than I, but it's a damn good Idea and I'm bummed I didn't think of it. <sticks tongue out at phatsesh>
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hey Rusty, would you mind if i copy and pasted this on another forum?
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Umm...I personally don't mind, but I'd ask a mod before doing so...I guess. Seems it would be the right thing to do.
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i think we are missing res temp and did you pre soak your medium under the hydro section.

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Res temp is L. on the list, but no...didn't do the ph'ing the rockwool one.

Am curious why FBR never answered my request for guidance regarding this project. I asked him a couple of times if and how I should approach this, but nada.. I wonder...do I take his silence as acquiescence or disapproval...?

Has anyone with outdoor experience put any thought into the outdoors form?
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Hey peeps,

Lots of 'my plant is sick' questions as always... and I realize that a lot of new growers aren't even fully aware of the types of things that they need to take into consideration when asking for advice, so I made a list of the common ones.

If you have a problem, go ahead and cut-and-paste this list into your post to make it easier for the growers here to help you.

Don't worry about answering every question, but the more information you give, the faster and more accurately we can help solve your problems!

Happy growin'.

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H=Answer if you grow hydro or aero
C=Answer if you grow coco
S=Answer if you grow traditional soil
L=Answer if you grow soilless other than coco (Promix, Hyponex, SunshineMix)
R=Answer if you grow in RockWool
T=Answer if you grow in HydroTon
D=Answer if you run any type of automatic drip system, including into soil or soilless
E= EVERYONE needs to answer lol!


E-indoor or outdoor
E-soil, soilless, coco, aero, or hydroponic
E-specific medium
CSL-Soil type/brand
HCL-Hydro/aero/soilless system type
SCL-Anything you have added to the soil
SCLR-Soil or slab runoff pH
E-Water source
E-Source water pH
HRT-Source water EC (if hydro)
E-Age of plant
E-Type of fertilizer
E-Rate of application (if hydro, this is your PPM number, preferably after each component is added)
E-Lighting source and distance from plant
E-Air temperature (both day and night if you are running a dark period)
HD-Reservoir temperature
E-Air % Relative humidity
E-Lighting schedule
E-Type of ventilation your room has
TR-Did you pre-soak your media in pH corrected solution?

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Hello out there I am a first time hydro grower. I need some advice. My bottom branches on my plant are drying turning pail and yellow I believe it was caused by a nute overdose when I moved my girl to flowering. Since then I have trimmed rusty brown roots added hydrogen peroxide. I was only 2 weeks into flowering at that time so I bumped it back to veggie stage for 2 more weeks now this is what I have see pics. As you can see the bottom branches are drooping but the top is thribing any suggestions?
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Post in the right spot

You should have posted this as a new thread in plant problems. People won't see it here.
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Thanks for the assist folks, it's appreciated.

Ok...how's this one? I think I included everything mentioned.

The only way for me to accurately post one for outdoors, is to look online and steal some ideas to construct one, or, if someone here has a few spare moments and would like to participate by outlining what the content should include...All appropriate credit will be given, or, y'all can post it y'alls self, lol. (but I'd practice here first for additional imputs):

Soil Grows - Peat Based

What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)

Your Equipment:
.1) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's)
.2) Distance from tops?
.3) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...)
.4) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?
.5) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?
.6) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?

Your medium:
.7) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...)
.8) Size of container.
.9) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings?

Your nutrients and water:
10) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) What's it's ph before adjusting?
11) Method of checking water ph. (ph pen, test strips, aquarium test kit...)
12) Method of adjusting water ph. (phosphoric acid, white vinegar, hydrated lime, PH Up...)
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule.
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?
15) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...)
16) Are your ph levels stable, or do they fluctuate?
17) What is your ingoing water's ph? ...your runoff ph?
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray?

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors?
20) What size of closet, room or hut?
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?
22) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom?

Your strain:
23) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?)
24) From seeds or clones?
25) Is this an autoflower strain?



Hydro Grows - NFT, Aeroponic, Hempy Bucket, Flood-n-Drain...Coco

What is your experience level? (first timer, novice, experienced...)
What type of hydro set-up are you running?

Your Equipment:
A) Type and wattage of lights. (MH, HPS, CFL's, tube fluorescents, LED's)
B) Distance from tops?
C) Reflector type? (cool tube set-up, bat wing, enclosed reflector, bare bulb...)
D) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule?
E) Is there a consistent fresh air supply?
F) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan?
G) Size of reservoir?
H) What medium if applicable.

Your nutrients and water:
I) If using rockwoll for clones or seedlings, did you rinse the cubes well, with properly ph'd water?
J) Source of water. (tap or filtered) What's it's ph?
K) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule.
L) What is the ec/ppm of your unadjusted tap (or filtered) water?
M) What is the ec/ppm of your nutrient solution?
N) What is the temperature of your nutrient solution? (reservoir high and low temps)
O) Does your ec/ppm show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check?
P) Does the ph fluctuate?
Q) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you
spray? (Just after lights come on, just before they go out...)
R) How often do you replace reservoir water/nutes? What does it look like before changes? (clear, foamy, green, brown...)

Your growroom:
S) What size of closet, room or hut?
T) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off?
U) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom?
V) Are the roots long and white, or brown and slimy?

Your strain:
W) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?)
X) From seeds or clones?[/QUOTE]
Y) Is this an autoflower strain?[/QUOTE]

I could copy and post each method as it's own thread, (with instructions for copying, pasting and answering) and hopefully we can close the thread if FBR agrees, so no errant postings will confuse it's intent or purpose. Perhaps the last chance for changes...
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