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Deficiency/Toxicity symptoms in hydro plants, help
Literally, no.
-DWC
-T5 Flo
-70-77* F
-34-44% RH
-Apprx 5th week in veg.
-Fox Farm 3 Part w/ LK and CM+(alternating at res change)
apprx. 10ml per 1.5 gallons / 3-5 ml CM+ and LK
-Distilled water
-Light 6-10" from tops
-5.8 pH
-800-900 ppm
Satori
They have been doing so well, considering they have my V card. I noticed the one has a few fan leaves that have been getting a little crispy on the tips. First, I thought it was a P problem so I upped it and nothing really happened; now back to 1-1-1.
So, what now? Anyone have a shine of enlightenment or a little experience with Satori? Thanks everyone who reads and responds!!
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Mar-31-2008, 23:07
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Apr-01-2008, 09:32
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Also, do the leaves look healthy outside of the toasty tips? The dark middle - light outter coloration seems odd...
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I'm still totally new to hydro, so I don't want to throw any answers out there that may be totally wrong. Maybe while you wait on another response, you can put some of the puzzle pieces together here:
Revised: The Complete Guide To Sick Plants,pH and Pest Troubles
Sorry I couldn't be more help .
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Thanks Mr. Clandestine! It was definitely a shove in the right direction.
Anyone else want to take a stab??
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By the way, that guide is neato...Everyone needs to save that one.
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I know everything...except what I know is nothing. I am pretty sure what I have is a K deficiency. My normal formula is 1-1-1 (10-10-10ml) and in an attempt to fix the problem I changed it to 8-8-15ml - to pump up the K; its only getting worse!! Does this mean its not a potassium problem or is there a special way of fixing these deficiencies...?
CC my plants need some experience....please aid!!
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...am I invisible..?
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Maybe if we can get this post moved to the Hydroponic forum, you'll have a little more luck getting answers. I flagged it for moderators to take a look at, hopefully one of our knowledgeable hydro growers will be around soon to lend a hand.
Take care. 
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What's the temperature IN the res water? Are the pots sitting on a cold concrete floor?
It looks like overfert, but your ppms are REALLY low.
Try setting the pH right at 6.0.
What are you doing to aerate the reservoir?
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Ahhh Mr. Clandestine,again, stopping in to give me a breath of fresh air. Thank you I really appreciate your help!!
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Keeping this here, as it's a plant problem.
You might want to name threads what they are about if you want people who can help fix the problem to even read the thread.
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Stinky-- Overfeeding crossed my mind, too. Mandala (maker/breeder,manufacturer, w/e) of the seeds say this strain needs very little nutrients so I dropped it down to about 650 PPM last night. I'm not sure of the res temp butt hey are sitting on a tile floor. Whats the target res temp, btw?
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Oh,word....Yea I guess that makes sense....
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Target res temp is about the same as target room temp. Keep it oxygenated and in the upper 70s, and stable. Put foam insulation under the pots if the floor is very cold.
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Did I read correctly that you are alternating your CalMag and Liquid Karma? If so.......quit it. They are not in any way interchangable products.
If thats what you are indeed doing then there is your problem.......CalMag should be part of your STANDARD fert routine. The LK is extra beans.
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Im just throwing this out there, I figure someone will have to agree or disagree but when my plant leaves got 2 shades of green folliar feeding helped. (ps due to my own toxicicity I am in no mood to be spell checking anything)
My 2nd grow is just getting going so hopefully youll just read my advice and let someone who knows more about this tell you if it would help the color of the leaves because it wont help the brown edges just the color.
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Stinky - I use Sunleaves oxystones. i'll check the res temps
Weedhound - I alternate LK and CM at res change, I follow Latewoods method loosely....come to think of it I dont think I had this problem until I started alternating the CalMag...
Luvfriday- thnks for the input. honestly foliar feeding scares the hell out of me...Im worried about overtanning them...ya know?
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CalMag replaces the minerals etc that RO or distilling takes out of your water. So yes.....you pay to take everything out of the water and then you pay to put things back in.
CalMag should be between a third and a half of your total ppms if using RO or distilled water every time. Liquid Karma isn't necessary.....CalMag is.
Good luck.
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Foliar feeding isn't scary! In fact, it has application in treating observed deficiencies WHILE you are trying to figure out how you got them, by bypassing the roots.
I like to feed my plants with a weak solution of the 'GH Micro' from the GH 3-part. I mix it up at about a tablespoon in a quart spray bottle, with a drop of dish soap to make it 'stick' (surfactant), and mist lightly. That buys you more time to fix the source of the problem.
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If I'm following ya Stinky: Foliar could touch up the cosmetic blemishes while you are treating the roots? Do you ever have problems with them burning from magnification?
Is the same method good for clones, foliar with a weak solution?
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I'd wait until the clones are established before feeding them, but then, yes, it's fine.
I never have light burn problems because the key is the 'MIST LIGHTLY' part of the instructions. The dish soap acts as a surfactant and breaks up droplets, and you should use the finest possible mist, and apply VERY lightly, let dry, wait a day, apply again, watch for improvement. Follow? I always urge restraint in feeding because it's easier to fix hungry plants than burnt ones! 
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