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Stephen Colbert 17 15.32%
Hillary Clinton 8 7.21%
Obama 9 8.11%
Mike Gravel 3 2.70%
Ron Paul 60 54.05%
A different candidate 6 5.41%
I'm not going to vote 8 7.21%
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Pot friendly presidential candidates

Most people have heard about Ron Paul who is currently a 2008 presidential candidate. I heard about Ron Paul and quickly decided to follow another pot friendly candidate, Mike Gravel. After researching I found that Gravel has so much experience and helped stopped Vietnam, the draft, etc. Mike Gravel has a lot of great things that he would like to do in order to strengthen our country again. Unfortunately he isn't nearly as popular as the other candidates including Ron Paul.

I've decided to turn my back on Mike Gravel as much as I don't want to because I would rather spend my time promoting Ron Paul who seems to be much more popular right now than Mike Gravel. There's no point to have half the stoners vote for one and the other half to vote for the other since we'd all lose.

Who are you going to spend your vote on next year?
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if you're hoping that there is some candidate out there that will legalize, don't hold your breath. your best set is to get people in power that will fight for states' rights over the feds. if the states held the power they should within their own borders the dea wouldn't be able to run rough-shod over the will of the people.
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19% of you are not even going to vote?....

Nobody sees it as more of a rat race than I do, but seriously people....

BE INVOLVED! YOU people added up, could make a WORLD of difference in our mission, if nothing else, to legalize the medicinal use of cannibis EVERYWHERE!


...With that said, it's gonna be hard for me to not vote in favor of Steven Colbert. The man is truly a genious, however, I have not done enough research on the candidates to make a decision. I did used to joke about him and John Stuart running for office...

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ever hear of the electorial collage? there the people who pick the prez not the voters
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Seems like Ron Paul is doing pretty good. There is a slight chance that he could win. We'll see!
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Ron Paul is pretty freaking awesome. So awesome, in fact, that even as a poor college student I'm still going to donate to their campaign next quarter.
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1)I will not vote, because voting is saying "Yes, this system works," when the candidates are chosen by the media months before any primary.

2)However, if I did, I would vote for Dennis Kucinich. He wants to create a fucking Department of Peace. Fuck.
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19% of you are not even going to vote?....

Nobody sees it as more of a rat race than I do, but seriously people....

BE INVOLVED! YOU people added up, could make a WORLD of difference in our mission, if nothing else, to legalize the medicinal use of cannibis EVERYWHERE!

and what do you suppose would happen if the entire population of the u.s. refused to participate in the sham that politics has become? what would happen if everyone woke up one day and decided to thumb their noses at this system of lies and broken promises and just torch the polls and smash their little voting machines? what if we just denied the government our allegiance and lived our lives without paying any heed to this petty bureaucracy that seems intent on turning one of the greatest nations to ever exist into a cesspit inhabited only by slaves and masters?
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1)I will not vote, because voting is saying "Yes, this system works," when the candidates are chosen by the media months before any primary.
Umm, this doesn't make any sense, are you saying you don't vote because if you did you would only vote for who the media tells you too? Last I checked the media is pretty biased against Ron Paul but that didn't stop me from changing parties so I can vote for him in the primaries.

But the most important thing isn't just voting, that is probably the least effective method of supporting your candidate, the most effective method is getting active in their campaign, or donating money. Without money, they can't get the advertising they need to draw in more supporters, the media just falls into place once they reach a certain point. Hopefully after November 5th Ron Paul will escape from the "no chance in hell" position the media has put him into, (with their own biased voting polls I might add)
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we cant just get a pot friendly pres. to legalize pot. we also need to change the house and senate votes also. ultimately its going to be them who decides. if bush were to say pot were legal, doesnt mean we could do it. it would still have to pass through congress to change the laws against it right now. to legalize it, your going to need start small, get active in your community, work your way up to the state level, and then go to the national level with a pro pot cannidate. if the states are for it, then the government will be for it.
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^But if we could actually get a leader to lead this country in the right direction, that president could lead this country to legalization and get all the support he needs. The problem is, few people vote for true leaders, they vote for the worthless fakes created by the political machine. Ron Paul is a true leader, I've found myself 2nd thinking some of my own views after hearing him talk about those issues.
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and what do you suppose would happen if the entire population of the u.s. refused to participate in the sham that politics has become? what would happen if everyone woke up one day and decided to thumb their noses at this system of lies and broken promises and just torch the polls and smash their little voting machines? what if we just denied the government our allegiance and lived our lives without paying any heed to this petty bureaucracy that seems intent on turning one of the greatest nations to ever exist into a cesspit inhabited only by slaves and masters?
Believe me, I hear you. The problem is the amount of people it would take, to make a substantial impact, is unattainable. Too many folks, with too much money, would NEVER stop voting. I'm afraid a revolutionary idea like this, would be snubbed as a mere unpleasent gesture, as we were persecuted further.
We've got a better chance at infiltrating 'their' system, with 'one of us', and making our changes from 'inside', than to further distinguish ourselves as 'the bad guy'.


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....and how many members of our current crop of political animals do you think started out with such high ideals, only to find that it was the system that changed them? politics has been described as the fine art of compromise and one of the first things surrendered in the process seems to be one's principles. caught up in the game, the players seem to lose sight of any goal but attaining more power. too much is never enough and you can never have too much, all in the name of those ideals that were shed to acquire that power in the first place.

the road to power is paved with discarded integrity and populated by murderers and thieves. how can any traveler not be corrupted by such an atmosphere? i'm sure that many of washington's political denizens believe they are still fighting the good fight, as they sell the last of their souls for one more day on the hill.




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I usually stay out of the political forum, but I have to add my two cents here.

1. Martin Luther King Jr. started out with very little support. Folks didn't believe that true black freedom would EVER be attained. Further, they told him he'd never get equal treatment without the use of force. Well.....here we are. We celebrate the life of the man who is credited more than anyone else, with attaining civil rights for all minorities.

2. The Vietnam war ... Turbulent times for sure. But why did we pull out of Vietnam? Believe it or not it had to do mainly with activism. The shootings at Kent State. The riots at U.C. Berkeley. It all played a part. If we really wanna make a change we have to ORGANIZE ourselves into groups like this:
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but if we get a president in office that is pot friendly then he wont put in place such a harsh and stupid ass Drug Inforcment Chief or whatever that postion is called
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I don't know which of the phony bastards I'll vote for, but I will NOT be making a decision of that importance, on whether or not they support marijuana ... the world's existence could literally depend on who is the next President, regardless of your personal politics ... I smoked pot for a lotta years, regardless of who was my President, I just don't see the importance in it ...
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Ron Paul!!!

Ron Paul is our only hope for legalization because he is challenging the establishment on many fronts and without that aspect, it isn't going to happen. He is the only candidate saying "Get the government out of our lives!" and has plans to do this! Hell, under a Paul presidency I'll have plenty of money for MJ since it would be legalized and I don't have to pay income tax anymore since he did away with that, and the inflation tax is gone after we go back to the gold standard and stop the diabolical federal reserve, a private cabal running our economy into the ground and of which is neither Federal nor a Reserve (watch Aaron Russo's Freedom to Fascism).
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Check out Ron Paul blasting the war on drugs in this interview with NORML!
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Your a fucking idiot if you choose who you vote for by whether they advocate legalisation. Whatever your political leaning, there are bigger political issues than weed.

PS: Not directed at anyone in particular but it pisses me off when people vote for a prty because of one issue alone. Pro-lifers *Ahem*
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[QUOTE=Chronisseur;1698854]19% of you are not even going to vote?....

I for one am a felon and can't vote. Any others?
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IF Ron Paul is so pro-marijuana then why is it that the ONLY bill he has introduced is H.R. 1009, the "Industrial Hemp Farming Act of 2007?

Seems to me that this beacon of shining light would have at least proposed a medical marijuana bill.

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Ron Paul would pardon all non-violent drug offenders in jail. He has the power, as president, to do that. That would give a pretty damn good impression on congress that there is going to be a new policy.

Here's a pretty funny clip from 1988 with Ron Paul on the Morton Downey show:
YouTube - Ron Paul vs. Morton Downey, Jr.'s audience 1988

And also from his current run at a debate about a month or so ago:
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IF Ron Paul is so pro-marijuana then why is it that the ONLY bill he has introduced is H.R. 1009, the "Industrial Hemp Farming Act of 2007?

Seems to me that this beacon of shining light would have at least proposed a medical marijuana bill.

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He co-sponsored the H.R. 2592, the States' Rights to Medical Marijuana Act:

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