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A Third American War in the Making?
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
The US Congress, the US media, the American people, and the United Nations, are looking the other way as Cheney prepares his attack on Iran.
If only America had an independent media and an opposition party. If there were a shred of integrity left in American political life, perhaps a third act of naked aggression--a third war crime under the Nuremberg standard--by the Bush Regime could be prevented.
On March 30, the Russian News & Information Agency, Novosti, cited "a high-ranking security source: "The latest military intelligence data point to heightened US military preparations for both an air and ground operation against Iran."
According to Novosti, Russian Colonel General Leonid Ivashov said "that the Pentagon is planning to deliver a massive air strike on Iran's military infrastructure in the near future."
The chief of Russia's general staff, Yuri Baluyevsky, said last November that Russia was beefing up its military in response to US aggression, but that the Russian military is not "obliged to defend the world from the evil Americans."
On March 29, OpEdNews cited a report by the Saudi Arabian newspaper Okaz, which was picked up by the German news service, DPA. The Saudi newspaper reported on March 22, the day following Cheney's visit with the kingdom's rulers, that the Saudi Shura Council is preparing "national plans to deal with any sudden nuclear and radioactive hazards that may affect the kingdom following experts' warnings of possible attacks on Iran's Bushehr nuclear reactors."
And Admiral William "there will be no attack on Iran on my watch" Fallon has been removed as US chief of Central Command, thus clearing the way for Cheney's planned attack on Iran.
The Iranians don't seem to believe it, despite the dispatch of US nuclear submarines and another aircraft carrier attack group to the Persian Gulf. To counter any Iranian missiles launched in response to an attack, the US is deploying anti-missile defenses to protect US bases and Saudi oil fields.
Two massive failures by the American media, the Democratic Party, and the American people have paved the way for Cheney's long planned attack on Iran. One failure is the lack of skepticism about the US government's explanation of 9/11. The other failure is the Democrats' refusal to begin impeachment proceedings against President Bush for lying to the Congress, the American people, and the world and launching an invasion of Iraq based on deception and fabricated evidence.
If an American president can start a war exactly as Adolf Hitler did with pure lies and not be held accountable, he can get away with anything. And Bush and his evil regime have.
Hitler launched World War II with his invasion of Poland after staging a "Polish attack" on a German radio station. On the night of August 31, 1939, a group of Nazis disguised in Polish uniforms seized a radio station in Germany. Hitler announced that "last night Polish troops crossed the frontier and attacked Germany," a claim no more true than the Bush Regime's claim that "Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction." Hitler's lie failed, because his invasion of Poland, which began the next day allegedly in reprisal for the Polish attack, had obviously been planned for many months.
Iran is a beautiful and developed country. It is an ancient civilization. It has attacked no one. Iran is a signatory to the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty. Iran is permitted by the treaty to have a nuclear energy program. The Bush Regime's case against Iran is based on the Bush Regime's desire to deny Iran its rights under the treaty.
The International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors have repeatedly reported that they have found no evidence of an Iranian nuclear weapons program. Despite all the disinformation from US Gen. Petraeus and other Bush Regime military lackeys, Iran is not arming the Iraqis who are resisting the American occupation.
If Iran were arming insurgents, the insurgents would have two weapons that would neutralize the US advantage in the Iraqi conflict: missiles to knock down US helicopter gunships and rocket-propelled grenades that knock out American tanks. The insurgents do not have these weapons and must construct clumsy anti-tank weapons out of artillery shells. The insurgents are helpless against US air power and cannot mass forces to take on the American troops.
Indiscriminate American violence has reduced Iraq to rubble. The civilian infrastructure is essentially destroyed--electricity, water and sewer systems, medical care and schools. Depleted uranium is everywhere poisoning everyone, including US troops. There is no economy, and half or more of Iraqis are unemployed. Literally no Iraqi family has escaped an injury or a death as a consequence of the US invasion. Millions of Iraqis have become displaced persons. A developed country with a professional middle class has been destroyed because of lies told by the President and Vice President of the US. The Bush Regime's lies are echoed by a neoconservative media, and have gone unchallenged by the opposition party and an indifferent American public.
In Afghanistan, death and destruction rains on even the smallest village from the air. America's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are wars against the civilian populations.
Just as the world could not believe Hitler's next horror and thus was always unprepared, the Iranians despite all the evidence cannot believe that even the Great Satan would gratuitously attack Iran based on nothing but lies about non-existent nuclear weapons.
Iran's only chance would be to strike before the US delivers the first blow. Instead of using its missiles to take out the Saudi oil fields and to sink the US aircraft carriers, instead of closing the Strait of Hormuz, instead of arming the Iraqi Shi'ites and moving them to insurgency, Iran is perched like a sitting duck in denial even as the US and its Iraqi puppet Maliki move to eliminate Al Sadr's Iraqi Shi'ite militia in order to avoid supply disruptions and a Shi'ite rebellion in Iraq when the US attack on Iran comes.
It is important to emphasize that Iran is making no moves toward war. Having tamed, blackmailed, and purchased Congress, the US media, and US allies and puppets, Cheney might delight in the arrogance with which he can now attack Iran free of any restraint or fabricated provocation. On the other hand, he might cover himself by orchestrating an "Iranian provocation" to justify his attack as a response. But like Hitler's planned attack against Poland, Cheney's attack on Iran has long been in the works.
On March 29 the Associated Press reported that Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi "poured contempt on fellow Arab leaders" at the Arab summit that day. Gadhafi told the Arab "leaders," many of whom are on the American payroll, that their American masters would turn on them all, just as America turned on Saddam Hussein after using him to fight a proxy war against Iran.
Saddam had once been an ally of Washington, Gadhafi reminded the Arabs, "but they sold him out." Gadhafi told the American puppets, "Your turn is next."
Gadhafi asked, "Where is the Arabs' dignity, their future, their very existence?" If Arabs remain disunited, he predicted, "they will turn themselves into protectorates. They will be marginalized and turn into garbage dumps."
Indeed, it is this disunity that permits the US to bomb and murder at will in the Middle East.
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Mar-31-2008, 21:45
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Well if your country attacks Iran then it will be the biggest mistake ever.Better start shipping over your body bags now cause your going to need them.
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What website did you pull this article off of? It seems racked with insecurities and conspiracy theories. "Evil Americans"? "Indiscriminate American violence"? Give me a break. There's two sides to every story... you apparently have only read the biased, anti-American side, and are sticking to every word of it like stink on shit.
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PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS Is a conspiracy nut who still believes that the towers on 9/11 were blown up. Even the most whacked job out there has given up on that theory.
Evil America, Evil America, blah blah blah.
Always the same rhetorical spew.
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As soon as the draft is initiated(and yes, yes it will be, because this war is never going to end, it will merely continue to escalate) I will be abandoning America and moving to another country. This war is not for america, it's for Iraq.
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PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS Is a conspiracy nut who still believes that the towers on 9/11 were blown up.
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That explains everything. I've never even heard of Paul Craig Roberts before, but knowing this little tidbit of information has sufficiently cleared up any misconceptions I might have had about the origins of his article and personality.
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Well whether its true or not i dont know but the fact is the Bush administration has been beating the war drums for war against Iran ,that much is true.An attack against Iran would not surprise me one bit.
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Well whether its true or not i dont know but the fact is the Bush administration has been beating the war drums for war against Iran ,that much is true.An attack against Iran would not surprise me one bit.
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Don't forget mccain's little tune..'bomb bomb bomb iran' what a great fuckhead to be running for president...I have the future of my life, and one day my family and children to think about.
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If you live in the States, a nuclear Iran isn't going to pose a threat to you. If you are allies of America that happen to be in somewhat close proximity of Iran, it's a different ballgame. Would you prefer that Iran be allowed to build a nuke and then allow them to carry through on their threat to devastate Israel with a nuclear attack? Israel, as much as people seem to hate them, DO in fact have a right to exist just like everybody else. Iran wants to take that right from them. Where's the outrage in that?
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LMAO! I can't believe there are still "so called journalists" that are on the Cheney invading Iran rant. I suppose, probably worth a couple of bucks for an obsolete article considering that these two are in their final months in office.
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It's not that at all Pisshead.......he just seems like another "journalist" that has to make his way promoting fear rather than reporting actual news. You know, like good ol' Alex Jones.......DANGER!! LOL
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This ain't gonna happen. There's no TIME for Cheney and/or Bush to put together a war with Iran, even if they wanted to. Even in "Evil America" the president (or Vice President!) can't just order an invasion or bombing campaign of the scale you are talking about without making a case for it. Whether you agree with the reasons for the Iraq War or not, the adminstration did at least make a case for it and got the buy-in of the Senate. There were resolutions in the UN that proivded a pretext as well. Now it may have turned out that all those reasons were LIES, but at least there was an effort at selling a patina of legitimacy.
None of that groundwork has been done for Iran, and there isn't time to do it now. The election is in 7 months. I wouldn't put anything past Bush or Cheney, but I doubt even they would get us into a war with Iran right before leaving office. Unless it is part of the larger conspiracy to precipitate a worldwide crisis, suspend the Constitution, and install Cheney as President for Life of our new fascist nation... Hmmmm... Maybe there is something to this after all....
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this one time, at band camp...
IF, notice i said, IF there was to be war they CAN suspend elections and keep the current gov't in power.
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IF, notice i said, IF there was to be war they CAN suspend elections and keep the current gov't in power.
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IF that were to happen, there'd be a war all right --- Civil War.
Note: I do not believe in this scenario at all, but if the government were to launch another ill-advised, unpopular war, without any public support or pretext, and then suspend elections because of the crisis, there would be a period of bloody chaos resulting in either a full dictatorship, or a bunch of fascists swinging from ropes.
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Another reason I do not believe in this scenario is that our military is stretched so thin already, I don't think we could sustain an effectiuve attack on Iran. Although, knowing this administration, they would probably estimate it to take only 10,000 special forces commandos, be over in 30 days, and be paid for with Iranian oil revenues. If Rummy were still around, it would be 100 troops, 5 days, and we'd be greeted by the Iranians with bouquets of flowers, handjobs for everyone, and free gas for life! How hard could it be? We've got 'em surrounded already, and we've got plenty of practice in Afghanistan and Iraq! Fuck, yeah! Wait a minute ... I was against this thing, right?
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Note: I do not believe in this scenario at all, but if the government were to launch another ill-advised, unpopular war, without any public support or pretext, and then suspend elections because of the crisis, there would be a period of bloody chaos resulting in either a full dictatorship, or a bunch of fascists swinging from ropes.
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I don't think a war with Iran is in our imminent future, unless they slip up and really provoke an attack, but it's a country that you don't want to forget is there. As much hateful rhetoric that has come out of the top political figures there, it'd be nuts NOT to keep an eye on them and know what they're doing. Maybe sanctions and stern negotiations will make them straighten up and ditch their fanatical theocratic ways... but for some reason, I have my doubts.
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looks we're well on our way to selling a war with iran... quite a few links to go through for those who are interested...
Quarter Of Americans Now Think Iran is The Biggest Enemy
Consistent neocon propaganda campaign paying off
Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Tuesday, April 1, 2008
A quarter of Americans believe that Iran now poses the biggest threat to the United States, confirming that a sustained neocon propaganda campaign to demonize Iran and its leaders for their own strategic benefit is having a significant impact.
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