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So if this guy is guilty of being a terrorist or having links to terrorism why is he free.Come on KUSH tell me why.He was brought infront of a kangaroo court and let go lol why???You say your country doesnt advocate torture thats B.S and you know it.Your country has kidnapped and tortured innocent canadians and europeans and for you to say we dont advocate torture is unbelievable.No wonder the rest of the world has such high regards for America
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So if this guy is guilty of being a terrorist or having links to terrorism why is he free.Come on KUSH tell me why.He was brought infront of a kangaroo court and let go lol why???You say your country doesnt advocate torture thats B.S and you know it.Your country has kidnapped and tortured innocent canadians and europeans and for you to say we dont advocate torture is unbelievable.No wonder the rest of the world has such high regards for America
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All I know is, thankfully, the United States has not been attacked since 9/11. I live less than 10 miles from Ground Zero, was in very close proximity when the attacks of 1993 and 2001 occurred, and have no sympathy for the people who wish to engage in more such actions against our society.
Rather than engage them, I'd rather boycott the entire Muslim world until they stop these threats themselves, but apparently nobody in the West wants us to do this - so there will be dangerous people hunted down and sometimes treated rough. I do not think that they deserve to benefit from the rights stipulated in the Geneva convention because they have no intention of ever adhering to ethics that are in accordance with it. They do not recognize it, or anything resembling a similar agreement, so we must do the best we can under the circumstances.
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May-12-2008, 00:28
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So if this guy is guilty of being a terrorist or having links to terrorism why is he free.Come on KUSH tell me why.He was brought infront of a kangaroo court and let go lol why???
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Who knows? I don't? Maybe zeee Germans had something to do wis it.  I dunno but really, there is obviously more to the story than the initial article would have you believe, and that means that the author is either ignorant, or agenda driven. IMO Yark yark! I think it is the second option, and it's pretty obvious. IMHO yark yark! 
The individual stories of people that are vacationing at Gitmo are likely all very intresting though.
I wish them all.....
FUCK'EM! 
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May-12-2008, 00:58
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BREUKEN how can you boycott the middle east??We get most of our oil from the middle east soo that will never happen......
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Actually the U.S. imports most of it's oil from Canada eh?!
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May-12-2008, 08:16
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm interesting indeed!
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I read this and couldn't agree with you more! 
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I adressed your post by drawing your attention to the fact that innocent until proven guilty is an American idea, you seem to be an anomoly in that you believe the opposite to be the case unless the suspect is American.
I get the distinct feeling you are xenophobic to the extreme.
If (as you believe) the person in question is so guilty then why was he released , lack of actual evidence perhaps ?
Guilt by association is hardly proof either , if that was the case then Bush and his family would be guilty of being associated with terrorists wouldn't they.
BTW this thread is as much about GB as it is about the one person in the OP, that is why my comments adress the whole issue rather than just one case.
This issue is bigger than just the mistreatment of one man.
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I bet i could get anyone of you guys to plead guilty to anything. Say raping babies. Give me a month or two with you and needle nose pliers and you'll be confessing.
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I bet i could get anyone of you guys to plead guilty to anything. Say raping babies. Give me a month or two with you and needle nose pliers and you'll be confessing.
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Well said
I have a nasty streak a mile wide and have extensive knowledge in hurting people and everyone has thier breaking point.
I wonder how many of those advocating the use of torture as an interrogation technique would still say it's okay if it were themselves or a member of thier family on the recieving end of such treatment.
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Kush i know you guys get alot of oil from us and thanks btw but its only a small fraction of what you consume.Canada supplys around 18% of your oil imports......
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May-12-2008, 21:29
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I love it when you challenge an idea with actual facts and information, and the only response is a flowery worded anti-America rant, that has nothing to do with or addressing any of the SPECIFICS OF WHAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED. At least it's appealing to the sheeple that subscribe to the "I hate America" ideology! I am sure none of them will notice that you basically just repeated the same rubbish over again while not acknowledging anything that could put into question the premise of this thread. Just pretend there is nothing to the contrary, and repeat, "It's all Bush's fault. WMD's, Katrina, Blah blah blah blah blah."
Psycho this is not directed at you personally, it is a characterization of how liberals tend to carry on debate in general, it just so happens you provided a real time example. 
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It's only proving psychocats point. If you look at it with objectivity, you would realize the evidence against Murat Kurnaz is circumstancial at best. It's enough to warrant investigation and putting him a watch list based on the evidence. It's not beyond doubt. You should answer his question, innocent before proven guilty, or guilty before proving innocent?
I'm not saying that they had to right to hold him, but being sent to GITMO based on flimsy evidence? Ridiculous.
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