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Sep-01-2008, 07:47
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What is Half American? And to the "more important than my personal comfort, freedom isn't free" poster, freedom also comes with a side order of freedom. If you're gonna pay for it you need to get your money's worth, know what I mean?
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And you guys want cannabis legalized?  Both Obama and McCain are nothing but puppets and have absolutely no brain or balls of their own. IMHO, anyone who votes for either one is part of the problem not the solution. I'd like to see a third party candidate (like Ron Paul or Ralph Nader) finally get a chance to win. You know someone who's saying something DIFFERENT! Not just pandering to voters to get elected so they can do what ever they want once their in power. Oh wait that's right no one really cares. Sad just sad.
It's unfortunate that people don't realize they have a choice not to choose between dumb and dumber. What a country full of sheeple. Things will never change because no one wants to work to change them. Status quo keep the peace if you don't like it leave. I can't wait until the shit really hits the fan. At least then the civil war going on in the US will be above ground on a real battlefield and not in the media, minds, prisons and schools of our country.
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You think going to one of those legalization rallies where everyone dresses like shit, going there as an excuse to go smoke weed and listen to music. It's like a facade, even tho I believe in legalization, I couldn't take those rallies seriously. It's not anyone is actually angry at those rallies because everyone is high. A 3rd party wouldn't change that because everything is tied to that image. You think voting for a 3rd party candidate will beat an image that has lasted for decades? I think not.
Until general impressions about smoking who smokes cannabis changes, it will never be legalized. I hate to say it, but the vast majority of potheads don't give a lasting impression. People can say "don't judge" but it won't change the fact the majority judges by appearances, by bullshit. Bullshit is important to the majority.
Anyway, I'm waiting until the last minute to decide for our president. Both of them are hypocrits.
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You think going to one of those legalization rallies where everyone dresses like shit, going there as an excuse to go smoke weed and listen to music. It's like a facade, even tho I believe in legalization, I couldn't take those rallies seriously. It's not anyone is actually angry at those rallies because everyone is high. A 3rd party wouldn't change that because everything is tied to that image. You think voting for a 3rd party candidate will beat an image that has lasted for decades? I think not.
Until general impressions about smoking who smokes cannabis changes, it will never be legalized. I hate to say it, but the vast majority of potheads don't give a lasting impression. People can say "don't judge" but it won't change the fact the majority judges by appearances, by bullshit. Bullshit is important to the majority.
Anyway, I'm waiting until the last minute to decide for our president. Both of them are hypocrits.
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Maybe everybody should be dressed formal to go to the rallies?? or at least in business atire...
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Sep-02-2008, 17:14
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Maybe everybody should be dressed formal to go to the rallies?? or at least in business atire...
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Maybe just business casual...
Of maybe business casual with "Optional Hawaiian Shirt Friday."
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Sep-02-2008, 17:17
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Got so wrapped up in the pot rally dress code issue, that I almost forgot to vote ... Obama and Biden!
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Sep-02-2008, 18:51
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Maybe everybody should be dressed formal to go to the rallies?? or at least in business atire...
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lol,
It wouldn't hurt image wise to help limit the attacking points to cannabis itself rather than the image it conjours. Although at this point it wouldn't help, the pothead stereotype is already so prevalant in the media.
Look at the heavy moderating on cannabis.com. One of the reasons is to do their best to change that impression to one who responsibly uses cannabis, which most are.
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Hey...
Just cast my vote for the super strong.... uhhh 3rd party. Anyone know the candidate for these guys?
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Sep-03-2008, 02:17
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the only 'war' going on, is the one between your ultra-liberal politics and a common sense of responsibility  ... there's more important things than whether or not I can smoke pot legally ... while McCain would be an opponent of my Medical Marijuana, and my Social Security/Medicare, I strongly believe the overall well-being and safety of my country is more critical than my own personal comfort ... as we like to say, "Freedom isn't Free" ... 
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First of all liberal implies Liberty! Which I don't have and neither do you. I'm a libertarian BTW. Common sense of what responsibilty? I'm not responsible for anything but my OWN actions. So tell me what's more important then my right to life, liberty and happiness? Or any of the rights I've already lost because you (and those like you) would/have gladly give(n) up your rights (and mine) to feel safe. "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin. I guess it's just bad luck for me I live in the same country as you. Well, I'm not going to give up my right to have an abortion (and yes that is something that will be an issue if McCain and Pallin are elected) and you can't make me. There is so much more at stake than 99% of people know because they choose not to know. If you think that either dumb or dumber have anything but the interests of the rich and powerful on their agenda, your part of the problem. There is so much going on, on a level few can comprehend. Call me a nut I don't care. It just means I can see through the bullshit and you can't.
Freedom isn't free but letting your leaders rule you isn't freedom. It's tyranny. I'm glad you like big daddy government telling you what to think and how to act but I don't. Maybe you should report to central processing for your microchip. I'm sorry you live in a made up world (you probably believe what you see on the news too). You're going to be rudely awakened someday. I'm sure it will be fairly soon too. It's people like me that will give their lives to save you from the monster you're creating (and yes it's for your comfort). Like you said freedom isn't free you're just not the one willing to sacrifice anything but our rights for it.
I just don't get what people don't get. You don't matter. You're vote doesn't matter. The machines can be (and I'm sure have been) rigged. Our government is broken, hijacked by those with money and an agenda all their own. What you want means nothing. You live in a world where the corporations and politicians tell you what you want not the other way around. Just like they tell you who you want to vote for.
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First of all liberal implies Liberty! Which I don't have and neither do you. I'm a libertarian BTW. Common sense of what responsibilty? I'm not responsible for anything but my OWN actions. So tell me what's more important then my right to life, liberty and happiness? Or any of the rights I've already lost because you (and those like you) would/have gladly give(n) up your rights (and mine) to feel safe. "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin. I guess it's just bad luck for me I live in the same country as you. Well, I'm not going to give up my right to have an abortion (and yes that is something that will be an issue if McCain and Pallin are elected) and you can't make me. There is so much more at stake than 99% of people know because they choose not to know. If you think that either dumb or dumber have anything but the interests of the rich and powerful on their agenda, your part of the problem. There is so much going on, on a level few can comprehend. Call me a nut I don't care. It just means I can see through the bullshit and you can't.
Freedom isn't free but letting your leaders rule you isn't freedom. It's tyranny. I'm glad you like big daddy government telling you what to think and how to act but I don't. Maybe you should report to central processing for your microchip. I'm sorry you live in a made up world (you probably believe what you see on the news too). You're going to be rudely awakened someday. I'm sure it will be fairly soon too. It's people like me that will give their lives to save you from the monster you're creating (and yes it's for your comfort). Like you said freedom isn't free you're just not the one willing to sacrifice anything but our rights for it.
I just don't get what people don't get. You don't matter. You're vote doesn't matter. The machines can be (and I'm sure have been) rigged. Our government is broken, hijacked by those with money and an agenda all their own. What you want means nothing. You live in a world where the corporations and politicians tell you what you want not the other way around. Just like they tell you who you want to vote for.
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i would have to say WOW, but kinda somwhere inside me im with ya!
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damn 10 mins passed and my edit went down the drain
EDIT to above post: I dont mean to meddle with your personal debate with reaper
but if any1 wants me to give a case of why i agree with above statements, i have a few points to make...
for now, a country of 300 million people who is the best place to be on this planet according to many people, MUST BE ASHAMED that we have only 25% of our population with higher education (college opens your eyes to many things, if ur mind has the ability to grow) and should not expect a better public view on anything when people have no interest in educating themselves
even many of our college students/grads go there merely for getting the degree and thus the job... they fail to actually analyze our history and our government books and courses! they just wanna get over with it
i feel bad when i see everyone is in a rush to leave the classes 10 mins b4 they are officially over... leave for what... to catch ya girls or homies on cell phone or to go to a crappy low pay job?? almost no1 takes interest in what they learn more than getting the grade, hardly people open up to different ideas than theirs
no1 uses their brain anymore in this land.. no offense, i mean compared to general population few people have unbiased mental analytical ability (fair judgement, side taking) we are fed with our family's and local society's agendas from day1
just wondering: how many of u actually have gone out and researched and found YOURSELF the religion or opinions/values u hold dearly, compared to those of u who basically have inherited it from family!?
i knew it, almost everyone's opinions are formed due to familys opinions in first place and society's beliefs in 2nd, most people dont even know why they are baptist or catholic, other than being born to a domination area of either sect in the country
tradition is tradition, some parts of it are older than times and must be changed or be gone 4 good! Extremist muslims say its their tradition to cut one's hand for theft as penalty and it is their tradition, their tradition says to stone adulterers... so merely following traditions is not always a good choice, u hold your tradition dear, they hold theirs!
most of us fail to think independently, we fail to analyze things for ourselves, we just suffice to what we are fed with as long as it matches our background values... and if doesnt, well thats the shit we have between the left and right in this country, both do stupid things and keep blaiming each other
we fail to notice the corruption and wrongdoings of our administartions of all sides, right or left, we fail to notice all the coup-de-tats we initiated and participated in, cuz we think supporting uncle sam uncontionally is the only way to be a patriot. but to me being a patriot is making decisions that will give us long-lasting safety, not just bullying around with old enemies or short lived allies and paranoia of some attack all the time! that aint patriotic.
patriot is some1 who invests more in education than in military, patriot is the one who makes attracting tax system so businesses dont run away abroad!
a patriot is the one who holds the constitution and our rights beloved as much as they like their bibles!
a patriot is the one who got the ballz to stand up to the government and president when do wrong
a patriot is the one who doesnt support our troops to go in and get killed in a war no1 really knows what its about anymore, half lies, half security, half oil, wtf?!
a patriot is the one who notices that 2 sided politics that we have is the only democracy looking as awkward as ours where non right or left get 0 attention and thus does something to change this
patriot is the one who finds a way to stop us from borrowing money, going on the path to financial suicide sometime in future,the one who does something about our social security that everyone admits is going to fail in future!
but it seems our politicians are most interested in their career and vote numbers and our people sadly either dont care about any of it or only care about whats important for them!
we are not guaranteed to be the only super power forever, look we had to deal with china and they are pretty much a communist state as strong as us in means of military.. we got missiles they got missiles, we got nukes they got nukes... so u see THE BIG STICK time is over... too many parties have big sticks, maybe not as big as ours but big enough to be scary even for us these days, and not all of them are allied with us
patriot is the one who makes a decision and comes up with an opinion that will solve our freakin law breaking wars over for good
our last declared war was WWII, how many military conflicts have we been to since then? laws broken? congress failing iuts duties? or they just simply change the law to t
its funny how many times we use double-standards for many things from wars to drugs to countries to interpreting the constitution
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So far it is a landslide for Obama, which is what I predict in November as well. Probably not by the same margin as in this poll, but by a decisive margin.
The Republicans have done nearly as much damage to their own party as they have done to the country and world at large.
Now and then there is a politcal, cultural or economic event that shifts the balance of power for decades. The Great Depression shifted power to the Democrats, and it lasted for a very long time. The cultural turmoil of the Sixties shifted power to the Republicans and it has lasted for a long time too.
I think maybe the discontent of the last eight years, with the war, with ignoring important issues like global climate change, with decling wages and other economic issues, with a overblown debt and deficit --- I think maybe this decade is going to be one that Democrats will use to punish Republicans for years to come. Republicans held control of all branches of government for most of this time and they drove the country into a ditch. They cut their own throats with their incompetence. They are done.
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So far it is a landslide for Obama, which is what I predict in November as well. Probably not by the same margin as in this poll, but by a decisive margin.
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Honestly we really won't know until October sometime when things start to really pick up and get crazy. Last time I checked though a 5 point poll lead is not a land slide. Obama will need a double digit lead if he wants to put the election on lock down.
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Republicans.. democrats.. They've both done huge damage to their party. Congress is a democratic Congress yet it has an approval rating hovering around 20%. Doesn't sound like Democrats are faring much better.
I honestly wished we had a more diverse party system enforced by legislation.
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Now and then there is a politcal, cultural or economic event that shifts the balance of power for decades. The Great Depression shifted power to the Democrats, and it lasted for a very long time. The cultural turmoil of the Sixties shifted power to the Republicans and it has lasted for a long time too.
I think maybe the discontent of the last eight years, with the war, with ignoring important issues like global climate change, with decling wages and other economic issues, with a overblown debt and deficit --- I think maybe this decade is going to be one that Democrats will use to punish Republicans for years to come. Republicans held control of all branches of government for most of this time and they drove the country into a ditch. They cut their own throats with their incompetence. They are done.
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You could possibly be right. 20 out of the 28 years the republicans have held office. I honestly don't feel they've driven us into a ditch. However I feel the party has definitely veered very far from what it once stood for.
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Honestly we really won't know until October sometime when things start to really pick up and get crazy. Last time I checked though a 5 point poll lead is not a land slide. Obama will need a double digit lead if he wants to put the election on lock down.
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It's true we won't know for some time, and the polling shows a very close race. But I think that maybe the polling methodologies have not kept up with the times. For example, pollsters call people on land lines, while a significant number of young people do not even have land line phones --- they use cell phones. Also polls use demographic models of who they THINK are going to representative of voters, but the Obama campaign claims to have brought in large numbers of people who were not likely to vote in the past. I think the polls are missing a large segment of people who are going to vote for Obama.
In addition, you have much more excitement on the Democratic side than you have on the Republican side. That will probably translate into a difference in turnout on election day. So even if the margin really is only 5%, if a larger percentage of Obama voters are motivated to turn out than the percentage of McCain voters, it will increase the final margin.
You are absolutely correct that we won't know for some time, maybe not even until election day. But I have a feeliong it is going for the Democrats in a big way this year.
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I'm happy to vote McCain/Palin.
If it wasn't for her being Religious I would be 100% behind her.
Anything is better than Obama/Biden.
Finally, a Female Republican (or politician in general) that doesn't have jowls.
She's hot.
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