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wow, I wonder what he'll be doing in his free time!
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except for his definition of marijuana and hemp, it's a very nice farewell letter...it reminds me of president dwight eisenhower's farewell speech...it's a lot easier to tell the truth when you're bailing out of a corrupt system:
YouTube - Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex. |
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It would have been nice though if he would have accepted a little more responsibility for the mess he has brought to this country. Hedge fund managers and the futures market is 2 of the things that have made the biggest mess of our economy.
He likes weed thats great but he helped destroy the economy. |
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Rich people don't feel guilt. That's why they're rich. The combination of a person being not only rich but a good person is damn near impossible. Yeah I said it, rich people are bad people largely. Why? Greed. No one needs more than 5 million dollars in their life. Ever. Simple as that. Gimme 5 million and I'm set for life, as well as several people near me. But no, 125 million just isn't enough for some of these bastards.
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He pointed out the reality of it all. Its a rigged game, and despite all of that he still won. What this man did was use people's greed against them. How can anyone try to deface this guy when all he did was play by the rules set forth? It is very easy to be sitting on the sidelines, or in front of the TV calling foul.
Why should he give the money back to the parents and people of ivy league schools who were so greedy as to super leverage in an attempt to gain even more? They made a bet, he called it and the rest is history. Humanity failed, by pointing fingers at one another you tend to forget that. Nobody is above the crisis and its causes, nobody.
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rich people feel guilt, but like most poor people who feel guilt, they usually don't do anything about it, except maybe bite their nails or get drunk
hedge fund managers play by the rules, but the rules are unfair, and their speculation negatively impacts far more people than the parents and people of ivy league schools...they hurt people who don't have a single penny in the market, as was the case with the speculation on oil futures...the speculation on mortgage backed securities is currently hurting people who never had any equities or even a mortgage in good times and bad, speculators are parasites who get rich without producing anything of value...it's the system we're stuck with, but we should regulate it to minimize the impact on people who aren't speculators |
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You do realize you have just called anyone who puts money into the market without a sure fire clue on the future of their investment a parasite.
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A measure such as that would inhibit firms abilities to obtain capital in times of need. In doing so, stocks would falter to much lower levels than what we have seen.
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Investing is risky. There is nothing different. Speculators are investors, it is how the business operates. By investing in anything, you are either speculating that it will go up or down. Speculation drives all markets, otherwise it does not work.
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speculation is different than investing...for example:
people who invest in companies are buying equity in the existing products, profitability, productivity, and reputation of a corporation whose boards of directors they have a legal right to question...people who speculate on oil futures contracts are betting on a non-existant future price of a commodity they will never see, nor have a say in how they are managed the time frame is different too, as noted above...risky speculation is short term - in and out like a bandit...there's a lot of corruption there in part because the regulators/investigators lag time exceeds the short term speculation time Last edited by maladroit; Oct-18-2008 at 23:24. |
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Before I read the actual letter all I could think of was someone getting a letter like this in the mail:
Dear Mr.Mrs. ________, This is Mr.Skippy from hedgefund mutual regarding your account. WOOOOOOPS. We screwed up. Heres a coupon for Hot Topic.
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I know of many people who are troubled by this very investment because they could not vision revenues dropping as they are. The thing that has saved XOM (look at the stock price) is the fact that many idiotic futures contracts are still obligated, even as they are called upon at this moment. There were many firms who purchased contracts much higher than the current market price of crude, but are still obligated to make that very purchase. THEY LOST!!!! The RTS (Russian market) is a great illustration of this concept... This is an excellent example of how markets correct themselves. The ones who made overzealous moves got caught. Quote:
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What does a firm do? Either speculate that the price of a given commodity such as crude will stabilize? Or do they speculate that it will jump in times of uncertainty. Either way it is speculation with concern to shareholders wealth. If i were you, i would study inverse relation to pegged currency. That way, you will gain a better understanding of commodities that are sold in specific denominations. Oil has declined because the dollar has jumped, just as oil jumped when the dollar declined. Lastly, you fail because you view such trading activities as a zero sum game.
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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety will not deserve liberty nor safety and will obtain neither. Benjamin Franklin Dost thou love life? Then do not squander time, for that's the stuff life is made of. Benjamin Franklin Last edited by GoldenBoy812; Oct-19-2008 at 00:54. |
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Golden Boy, unless you want to throw your money to the wind, an investor is supposed to be assuming the stock price will go up (which is determined by the demand for the stock, not necessarily by what the company is doing). Short selling is the only way to make money on buying high and selling low.
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"For the most part, firms purchase futures contracts to stabilize their input costs at future times"
- that type of futures deal is part of legitimate corporate activity, and is a good use of the futures market...unfortunately, most of the oil futures contracts purchased during the recent 200% increase in the price of oil was by corporate paper entities that never see or use a drop of the oil they're speculating on...THAT is the pure speculation that needs to be regulated to stop those parasites from screwing the rest of us (including the firms that buy futures to stabilize their oil costs) Last edited by maladroit; Oct-19-2008 at 10:59. |
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Unless there is actual clairvoyance, speculation is the driving force in the market place. And ill take your statement as that of agreeing with me...
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