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Old Jun-23-2009, 10:55
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Never thought I would be a Ruskie!!!

but I woke up this morning and thought to myself---- it is a good day to work for my comrads so that those that choose to be lazy and frolic under this wonderful sun may eat.I am going to clock in now- power to the socialist republic of the united states.
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Old Jun-23-2009, 11:08
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i cant tell if hes serious or joking im ripped but i have a feeling hes just messing around making fun of dear leader maobama =)
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Old Jun-23-2009, 18:01
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I think hes talking about The idea of people as radical and unfortunate as there situation may be, there out expressing their views which are only for the good of humanity and their fellow neighbors. But then he's also talking about you got these asswholes who got nothing better to contribute and do but getting off in some sick and twisted way of hiding online and baiting/scrutining good people to try and discredit them. Good thing to acknowledge I say, Gotta stay away from people like that as much as possible, They think these ruskies are against the work ethic, that its somehow "socailist" Which isnt the case whatsoever. A full working society is Ideal, Just gotta work out the kinks and set backs. But always remember to avoid those asswholes, and remember that when you avoid them they will be on you like flys on shit. Go get the pumbing fixed take a shower and get the fuck away from the bathroom. -urie
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but I woke up this morning and thought to myself---- it is a good day to work for my comrads so that those that choose to be lazy and frolic under this wonderful sun may eat.I am going to clock in now- power to the socialist republic of the united states.
Hail Comrade, I guess?

Do a test!!!

Don't go to work!! See who's economy collapses first.

Yours or the Socialist Welfare State you are implying we live in.

Grow a set and go to work, tow the party line!!!

You are Conservative? Right?
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Old Jun-23-2009, 20:38
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This is the stupidest thread ever created. period.
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What would Jesus do, if he were hanging out with Alla, or some one like that,
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maybe I've been wrong all these years ...

maybe I should have been a Liberal, after all ... that way, my Big Brother Government will take care of my needs, for me ! ... I will have free medical care, free electricity, free food, free concerts, wow ! ... everything will be FREE !, and I can stay home, smoke pot, and do whatever I please ! ... someone else will do all the hard stuff for me ! ... I'll never have to work again ! it's great, I love Socialism ! ....

oh shit, I just thought of something ... WHO is going to go to work every day, and pay all those expenses for me ? ... what if they're lazy, too ? ... I could starve ! ... and, how come these friendly, nice anti-American countries, like Russia, Iran, South Korea, Cuba, and the rest, tend to have death penalties for drug use ? ... I thought we were going to be free, to do as we please ... something ain't right here ... oh no ! I wasted a vote on Obama, the Chosen One, the Messiah ! ... (no, I didn't, I voted for the 'good' black candidate, Alan Keyes) ... damn, and I wanted to be just like that black woman on TV, that said Obama was gonna pay her rent, and buy her a car, too ... I feel so 'used', and you should, too ...
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Did you really vote for Keyes?! My props to you if you're for real. For one thing he had the good sense to jump in the mosh pit, but he knows where our country came from and where it is headed, and he understands the Constitution and I believe he would really uphold preserve and protect it too. I didn't vote for him this last go-round because I thought Paul had a better chance, but I voted for Keyes in previous elections.
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maybe I should have been a Liberal, after all ... that way, my Big Brother Government will take care of my needs, for me ! ... I will have free medical care, free electricity, free food, free concerts, wow ! ... everything will be FREE !, and I can stay home, smoke pot, and do whatever I please ! ... someone else will do all the hard stuff for me ! ... I'll never have to work again ! it's great, I love Socialism ! ....

oh shit, I just thought of something ... WHO is going to go to work every day, and pay all those expenses for me ? ... what if they're lazy, too ? ... I could starve ! ... and, how come these friendly, nice anti-American countries, like Russia, Iran, South Korea, Cuba, and the rest, tend to have death penalties for drug use ? ... I thought we were going to be free, to do as we please ... something ain't right here ... oh no ! I wasted a vote on Obama, the Chosen One, the Messiah ! ... (no, I didn't, I voted for the 'good' black candidate, Alan Keyes) ... damn, and I wanted to be just like that black woman on TV, that said Obama was gonna pay her rent, and buy her a car, too ... I feel so 'used', and you should, too ...
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Well, I'm a liberal in the real conservative ideology. I don't care what you do as long as you don't fuck with me or cause things to happen that unnecessarily effects my life. I can't stand the emerging so-called nanny government wanting to legislate human behavior beyond that which we already have. I don't want some government agency telling what to eat, drink, or smoke. I'm old enough and smart enough to make my own choices.

As far as I'm concerned, our government has stepped too far in people's private lives. Yes, the government has a true responsibility to promote the general welfare. That doesn't mean create a welfare state, that means the government promotes an environment where there is a level playing field as far as promoting business is concerned, not a corporate gangbang, where jobs are tossed to increase some CEO's fucking bonus.

I don't believe that we should support lifetime politicians who do nothing but fuck up the country and enrich themselves and their cronies. That is not what this country was founded on. And I damn sure aren't paying taxes to support such a government. As long as I'm a marijuana enemy in the federal sense, they can go fuck themsleves.

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Good points guys/girls but Its sad to say we are on a runaway train heading off a cliff already. The only way we are going to have any change is by Awaking more people to this, in hopes that we bind together in MASS PROTEST. Other than that our only options are drawing the line with a gun barrel. All attemps we've made at these shared ideas havent even made it into propossed consideration on any national level. Does that tell you something right there? IT SHOULD. Our country is in a coma and having a greedy family member make the descition. Guess what the Billionare Bankers and globalist(virtually every one in our Us cabinet and offices) have already made that descition. We are the majority in our views, they just dont admit it and try to cover it up. WE ARE THE MAJORITY!!!!!!!
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hello my comrads!!!!

yes I am conservative. And I do own a large set and they get up and follow me every day to work(I don't know why but they just keep hanging around) Good day comrads- work for the good of the many, and let the ideology of individualism die- its time has come.

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Old Jun-24-2009, 21:30
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^nothing hotter than girls in camo bikinis holding ak-47's. jk. Last time I checked this is america tho, you live in russia I hear they got the best heavy metal and raves?

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I am American but I travel a lot but seriously, Russia is not even a commie country anymore. last I heard they had democracy, capitalism and think even a stock exchange. I say rock on Conrads!
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Oh I get it this is sposed to be a bashing thread? HAHA dont worry you"ll get yours. Richard B riddick " I want you to remember this moment" When your sitting in your rex 84 fema camp and your declaired a low level terrorist because you were out protesting against the US government because there late with the food trucks because the economy collapsed because The federal reserve engineered it and weve been empowering them for 40 some years because the populous is to stupid and conditioned to believe that we can keep spending money we dont have on wars and car loans and loans on loans from the IMF. You didnt know the US government declaired protesting as low level terrorism? under which your suseptable to torture because you have no rights. Wait you dont have rights anyway because were at level 6 on the WHO;s list and that means technecly were under martial law boys and girls. That means you have no rights and you own no prperty they can seize anything and force you to work in labor camps!!!! YAY WHOOO HOOO HURRAY FOR CONCENTRATION CAMPS!!!!! DONT THINK IT CANT HAPPEN ITS ALLREADY IN WRITING!!!! LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN JUST BECAUSE IT AINT HAPPENED DOSENT MEAN IT CANT ITS GET READY ...........~~~~~IN WRITING!!!!~~~~~ All so If you are 100 miles away from any border of the US your in the no constitutional zone, but that doesnt matter we are at level 6!!! hot dang I love me some vaccines from that BAXTER company, thats been caught red handed infecting there shots with hiv and other deadly shit, And there talking to make a expeiramentall does this fall mandatory for school kids. shit I hope they didnt fuck that batch up. any ways people take care and I love you always.
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this is the bashing forum. guess I'll join in. WAKE UP SHEEPLE, you are slaves, democracy is a lie. is that more like it? am I starting to catch on?
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Trip06, I didn't mean for my comments to seem like they were directed at you, I was just ranting to the forum in general. besides i am asleep.
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I am going to clock in now- power to the socialist republic of the united states.
i just wanted to thank you for your tireless labors in the cause of our great socialist revolution. because of the herculean efforts of those like you, the hungry will be fed, the homeless will be housed, the infirm will be healed, and even the most impoverished family will be able to afford at least one big screen plasma television with surround sound and an unlimited supply of first run blockbusters on blue ray dvd.

of course, before any of this comes to pass we must first create the massive bureaucracies needed to see to it that your paycheck is spread equitably amongst the teeming masses. hundreds of thousands of new bureaucrats must be groomed to fill these new positions of power and their fiefdoms must be supplied with all the luxuries appropriate for their status. expense accounts must be created and left unsupervised, expansive offices and dwellings must be found for these new sultans of socialism, and underlings by the thousands must be found for the endless make-work tasks of the great industry of government.

as the greed of the private sector that we decry fully establishes itself within the never ending bureaucracy and swallows the wealth of a once great nation, i'm afraid there won't be much left to fulfill those dreams of the workers' paradise. the poor will be with us still, the hungry and infirm will find their lot eased just enough to keep them breeding and mindlessly casting their ballots for the latest false promises and broken dreams, and the jobless will become used to sucking on the empty sagging teat of the welfare state. only the business of government will thrive, that peculiar industry whose only product is its own greed and, though it never manages to show a profit, is just too damn big to fail.
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thank you, yeah I love that picture, one of my all time favorite shots, I'll post a link to where I stole it from if I can find it still. to me it looks a lot the cover of one my favorite albums, too

oh yeah, click on my sig!! this a link I found in one thedeanon's post, this is f'in awesome bro!! vote for herby in 2010 if Arnie and the legislature don't do it first. I wonder if Mass will leapfrog Cal?? C'mon California don't let those guys be the first.

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