Amazing Book.....Enjoyed it from beginning to end.

aw, management just changed its vision of this site, aiming more toward the medical aspects and and attempting to discourage the social side of the community. quite a few folks left and, though the grow section was hurt less, the sub-forums like politics and such were kinda left to founder.

make that all politicians and i'll agree with you 100%.

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The talk of foreign goverments allowing sweatshops of course raises the question of how these people came to power.
Could it be the result of support (either financial or military help) from interested outside parties, Pinochet gained power because of American paranoia.
There is much talk about Iran attempting to build nukes and the sanctions they should face and yet we stood by and in some ways even helped Israel achieve thier own nuclear status.
The west has an awful lot of skeletons rattling around in sooooo many closets.

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yeah, i agree. it can be an evil dog eat dog world at times and we have some the meanest dogs right here in the west. but the west (us, uk, canada) also does a lot of good in the world, too.

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no nation can exist for long without making enemies and stepping on a few toes and the larger, more powerful the nation, the more enemies it makes. people today don't speak much about the atrocities committed by spain, france and england in their heyday. those are faded powers and of little consequence. we even seem to have forgiven the millions massacred by stalin and his progeny for the sake of the great socialist state and the similar barbarity of china's perpetual "communist revolution". great nations have always attempted to impose their will on lesser nations and even small countries have interfered in the affairs of their neighbors. that is the nature of power and the men who wield it. it may not be right or fair, but it is reality.

now it is america's turn to be reviled for its part in the shaping of the world and i suppose it's only natural. what i do find rather odd is the lengths to which this country's detractors will go in their search for the evil that hides in the american heart. the various dictatorships that america has supported over the years are invariably brought up as evidence of our malicious nature. labeled "puppet regimes", their opposition is usually glorified as the popular resistance or freedom fighters and romanticized as altruistic men and women giving up their lives for the good of the people. the truth, before history is revised for the sake of agenda, is seldom so romantic. backed by another powerful nation, usually with an ideology contrary to that of the u.s., the revolution is almost always merely a power struggle between opposing domestic forces under the influence of outside powers. the people themselves are of little concern to the combatants, it is the power that rests in the people that is being fought over.

for decades the soviet union and the united states battled for the supremacy of their respective ideologies in such a manner, each assured that their way of life was good and the other evil. in what seemed to be some sort of conclusion, the u.s.s.r., having bankrupted itself in an arms race with the u.s., appeared to fold. ceding a majority of its satellites and reining in its massive defense spending, the cold war was at an end. but it had really just begun. the battle was never about the division of the world between those two superpowers. it was a conflict between two fundamental ideologies, the supremacy of either the liberty of the individual or the will of the collective as translated by a governing body. neither a perfect solution, but the only alternatives that seemed available.

the funny part is that the apparent dissolution of the most prominent proponent of socialism in the world did more to strengthen its cause than to weaken it. under the guise of "helping the people", this enforced collectivism has become the popular cause. it is seen as the underdog in some epic battle and, having been defeated by an overwhelming force, is embraced as the great answer by the struggling masses. the wealth of the victor in that battle is undeniable and the poverty in which a majority of the world exists is equally apparent, so the evil must reside in that victor. it is described by the ignorant masses and their handlers as the good of the many as opposed to the good of the few, but it might better be described as the greed of the mob scrabbling after the possessions of others that they feel their mere existence entitles them to.

so the skeletons are brought out and paraded around. these, along with various bits of anecdotal evidence, are used to stir the members of the mob into giving up their dreams of becoming one of the few and handing their governments the last vestiges of individual power they have left to them. in more civilized climes the lie of the ballot box is used to coerce the citizens into believing they are enforcing their rights to the belongings of others, while in savage lands warlords use more blatant means to wring what wealth and power they can out of the inhabitants. this small experiment in tempering the anger of the mob with justice is soon to come to an abrupt halt, degenerating into just another mindless herd led by the unscrupulous to no particular end.

human beings can be so intelligent on an individual level, but en masse they are among the most ignorant of creatures.






please excuse the rant. i know i've gotten a bit off course, but i'm feeling particularly disgusted with the ignorance of the mob.

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I have a theory that for each tenfold increase in numbers there is a relative decline in the average IQ.

We can look at history and complain of it's injustices but it is the people of today who shape our future.

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I see no clarity there. You have learned your lessen in violence. Sit

Myabe it's the continual dumbing down of schools across the world.

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Or maybe it's because 85% of the worlds population are the biggest pussies alive and cant handle anything stressful or what they percieve as hard or my favorite " not fair." I dont think the worlds IQ has dropped, it's that the weak pussies run the world and the media thinks they are cute and give them attention cause "thats fair"

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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

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I agree completely ... it's like, it won't matter HOW BAD things get, the 'sheeple' will just accept it ... bitch a little bit, and then, accept it ... I don't hate anybody, but liberal 'pussies' just disgust me ...

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I have no patience for pink type personalities who live their lives in fear. Stay outta my way.

Its not a WEALTH issue, its a mental health issue.

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That is certainly true of the education system in the UK, the celebration of stupidity that is Big Brother and a general relaxation of standards perpetuated by the media add to this.


I feel your opinion on that does not take into account that the real people who run things are usualy well connected through an old boys network that can be seen by even the most blinkered.

Pussies don't run anything, big business does.

Pink ??
Is that a silly reference to communism ?
As for fear, it's something of an alien concept to me.

I fail to see the relevance or point of this comment
Would you care to elaborate ?

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Good old boy system? What international community has some good old boy connects? I look around and see more things that give more credit to the NWO than some good ole boy system.Maybe between America and England, but we came from England and dont forget our roots, I dont anyway.

Pink-type personality

Da Juana Byrd Professional Psychic/Medium

Weak minded folks, not communists.


The comment at the end came outta my ass......saw someones signature said " its not a health issue, it's a wealth issue." Couldnt help butcomment on that hater statement.

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wrong post obviously

Personality Types Page 4

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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

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thinking about it, had I had to pick a color to represent communism, it wouldnt be red anymore....it would be GREEN.

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Thank you for the clarification .
I don't subscribe to the colour chart for personality as I believe nobody is one colour anyways.
I can be really good to people or thier worst enemy, it's all about the individuality of people and thier actions.

This is however of little consequence and is really starting to stray way off topic.

Using history to justify the present is really pathetic and kind of reminds me of children pointing at thier friends indiscretions in order to excuse thier own behaviour. It just don't wash with me.

The current situation where any country that does not fall into line is threatened with "sanctions" and military action is also very reminiscent of the playground too.
The US goverment has shown it's capacity for dirty tricks on numerous occassions and the US public seems baffled that others view thier nation as overly agressive and manipulative.

Are so many Americans so naieve that they believe thier goverment can do no wrong or is it that they prefer to remain blinkered.

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You werent very popular on the playground were ya? Im kidding.

I know America has done bad stuff. Im over it.....really could care less. Sometimes for the greater good you have to make a shitty friend to kill a shittier friend or make sacrifices. Thats life.

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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

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I had a great time on the playground at school when I was a kid, it was the un-athletic and fat kids that had trouble. Kinda the same in the international community I suppose.

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What if you're the shitty friend ?

Bush Sr promised the Iraqis who opposed Saddam that they would recieve help in toppling him only to go back on that promise allowing Saddam to slaughter them wholesale when the US and Brit forces withdrew .

Where I come from if you allow somebody else to fight in your place that makes you a coward.

I'm not in the least bit interested in popularity, I prefer to be disliked for my honesty than liked for a lie.

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Wasn't that because the United Nations said negative to the full invasion of Baghdad? Shows what listening to that group of elitist blowhards does huh. Life's a bitch. Stop living in fear. America has done shady shit. Shit happens.

Sometimes to topple a terrible nation you have to side with another terrible nation. The Brits know how that works, we prolly lifted ya'lls playbook actually. Only in America, where even our POOR ARE FAT. Too cool.

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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

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What is it with your constant repetitition of the mantra "don't live in fear" ?
I never have and never will, fear is completely alien to me.
I can but die , I do not fear death.
Death is like a patient old friend waiting in the wings for the final act of the play that is my life.

Our acceptance of the past is beyond our control but our actions and perceptions shape the future, I'd like to know what you think of this quote .
"He who does not punish evil, commands it to be done".

By accepting our own goverments abuses how can we then point the finger at others ?

Who decides which regimes are evil ?
Isn't the US just simply guilty of what many would see as international bullying.
The fact is that you can repeat the phrase "shit happens" till you're blue in the face but every point I have made you attempt to brush aside with an inane remark instead of actualy discussing them.

You already professed to not care so I shall close for now and await a serious attempt (by yourself or others) to rebuke the points I've made.

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So nations who have done bad things are then void from taking action against nations currently doing dumb shit? So i can beat my kids....learn to control that and stop, and then if I see my neighbor hitting his kids, I cant say anything to him or stop him? Pretty unrealistic.


" I have studied many philosophers and many cats. The wisom of cats is infinitely superior."

Hippolyte Taine

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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

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The use of past tense is a touch out of touch.
Are you implying that America and other western nations are now squeaky clean ?
Are you trying to tell me that the exploitation, warmongering and interference in foreign affairs is a thing of the past for the US and the west?
I really find that a tad hard to believe given the evidence to the contrary.

To use your own analogy
The US still beats it's kids but is a screaming hypocrite that then tells others "you shouldn't be doing that".

“Don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s raining.” Clint Eastwood, The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976)

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Im so lost on what particular point your going for with this? Sure, i know America isnt clean...sure we dont play fair sometimes.....sure we have a very, very, short successful checkered past, nobody denies that. So what are you getting at exactly? Cause arguing philosophical points goes nowhere fast.

It would be like a thread titled " Englands partition of India and the blood it shed....list attrocities and mean stuff commited by Brits with bad teeth." We could go all day with that, but there is no end game. We do it to further our nations interests i guess.

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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

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Im so lost on what particular point your going for with this? Sure, i know America isnt clean...sure we dont play fair sometimes.....sure we have a very, very, short successful checkered past, nobody denies that. So what are you getting at exactly? Cause arguing philosophical points goes nowhere fast.

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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

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