This is really a top 10, but I have an early morning and time isn't abundant right now...I'll post the next part tomorrow. There are an infinite number, but I've decided on 10, and these 2 aren't necessarily the top-top 2, but up there.

1. NSC-68: in April of 1950 this document outlined plans to "foster the seeds of destruction within the Soviet system." The means? Reinhard Gehlen, head of Nazi military intelligence on the Eastern front, was put in charge of the espionage service in West Germany, the CIA closely supervising him. His task: to develop a "secret army" of thousands of SS men to assist forces fighting within the Soviet Union. Essentially, the U.S. commissioned a Nazi army to go on a murderous rampage through Russia to weaken the state.

2. THE VIETNAM MINES: Thousands of Vietnamese people continue to die from dormant mines from the war that are suddenly triggered. The U.S. has done nothing to remedy this: the Pentagon officially stated "People should not live in those areas. They know the problem." They've also refused to give their mine maps of Indochina to civilian mine-deactivation teams.
This is nasty in itself, but much, much worse when we look at Afghanistan. The Russians, as is well known, were in there for about a decade, and mines also abound. Like the U.S., the Russians have done nothing to deactivate them, but they have, at least, and unlike the U.S., given up their mine maps. The U.S. media in about 1990 abounded in headlines condemning this Russian depravity, with the Americans heroically training refugees to destroy the mines.
"The Soviets will not acknowledge the problem they have created or help solve it," said Richard Williamson, the Assistant Secretary of State. "We are disappointed."
When I read this, I've rarely been so disgusted.

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I never really expect a response from any non-dissident...what possible rebuttal could there be?

I'd just like to clarify, though, that the Nazi army was mostly in the form of intelligence, which brought about most of its violence indirectly. Still.... there are also cases of Nazis like Klaus Barbie who were put back to work and then sent off to South America to be an American-sponsored drug kingpin.

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i think i'll wait for the list in its entirety before i attempt a rebuttal. i can't promise anything special (the u.s. is responsible for many atrocities), but i just may be able to put things in a bit more perspective than someone who's agenda is merely america bashing.

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Rebuttal?
At this point you could tell me that for the last 50 years the US has been run by a series of host bodies with hitler's brain at the wheel, and there's a fair chance i would buy it. :P

I'd also like to see the whole list.

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The CIA's M.O. is to foment insurrections within countries that they want to topple. They've been screwing around in Iran most recently, probing it for the possibility of toppling that government. The CIA raising an army of SS to mess with the Soviets doesn't surprise me at all. They do it all the time. They also love kidnapping children and raping them, so that they can use them as assassins and agents under their MK Ultra program. Go google MK Ultra. There's extensive documentation for it. This came from the Nazis too. They were very interested in brainwashing, and most of what the U.S. learned about it was from the Axis. Even more alarming, the Category 1 people in the TCS database are labeled as terrorists to local law enforcement, but they are really CIA agents conducting false-flag operations. The FBI training video tells police that they'll never see a Category 1 person. That's because they're agents! The CIA is possibly the most evil U.S. institution ever.

After ww2 Our country took all the top Nazi scientists and other highly important nazi government agents to our country and gave them jobs to continue there work. NASA space agency was started by Nazi's look it up. Eugenics still here still operating. The Hitler youth was converted from their verson of the boyscouts. Now these days the boyscouts in America in several states are training in US border patrol drills with guns on how to quote"take on army veterans" and dissedents. Look it up. Our country is already on a good start to fascism. With in a few years its HIGHlY poosible there will be some sort of bloody revolution. As it is the majority of americans dont trust our government anymore. Famous quote: When people fear there government thats tyranny, when the government fears the people thats freedom. I think that was thomas jefferson. Our forefathers as long ago as it was Knew all this shit and saved our asses with the constituion, We all need to defened it to the death wether we exercise our rights or not.

no shit.

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Lets be honest here. This isn't America bashing, I still love my country. But this country has a terrible history. We stole this country from the native americans, mexicans and eskimos. We have quite a history of persecuting people who stood in the way of our unquenchanable greed and it continues today. Greed is what allows us to live such lavish lifestyles with anything we could possibly want at our fingertips. And that even includes the poorest of us. We get the government we deserve. If we ever hope to make funamental changes to this country we're going to need to become less materialistic.

Good Luck trying to change people, you will find yourself really alone. Isnt It really odd that On so many differnet fronts freedom is being attacked at the same time right now. I mean the Fedralizing of police agencies, the internet as you mentioned, Not being alowed to leave or reenter the country with out a REAL ID card thats chip tracked. Soon not being able to breathe or whipe your ass with out haveing to pay a Enviroment TAX, Government buying up bail out corparations and then operating them as their own(THATS THE MOST SCARY SHIT RIGHT THERE) Obama giving the Federal Reserve more Power and control over our economy, The private bank can seize any buissness in the USA that it deems 'bad' for the economy. Second Amendment UNDER EXTREME attack(I dont even wanna go into it) IDK people....Just all these things at once. Nothing got better sence bush, About 10 times worse. The biggest rise in patriot malitia groups because who would of guess the people are not trusting their government anymore. HEY government you've been warned cross the line....watch your ass.

Believe me, while it may come across otherwise, America-bashing isn't my intent...nothing against the people, it's just that in a world of corrupt and awful political systems that breathe hypocrisy, they are the worst.

To even the odds, here's a bit of Canada-bashing from me: we condemned the amorality of Vietnam and yet became the world's biggest exporter of materials for weapons to the U.S. during that period. We were the silent, hypocritical warriors of the Vietnam War. Much more could be cited.

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"All murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets."-Voltaire

ALAS ITS NOT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE FACE OF OUR COUNTRIES--
ITS THE POLITICIANS.

who cares? Shit happens. George Carlin said anyone who looks at life as anything more than pure entertainment.....has clearly missed the point.

Try telling that to some kid in a sweatshop making cheap goods so the west can have all the mod cons.

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Its sad but thats life...........they need to step it up in India, I had a pair of AirMax fall apart a few months ago

You are a perfect example of the mindset that allows exploitation, the thing is I'll bet you would have a sharp change of mind should the roles ever be reversed.
Sad is true, sad that so many selfish people have an "I'm alright ,screw you" attitude.

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Fate decides who walks into your life, you decide who you let stay, who you let walk away, and who you refuse to let walk out.

Selfish? I recylcle and donated to 4 charities on my taxes last year? Im just saying they need to pay more attention to the patterns on the AirMax stitches, mine fell apart.

I'm gonna have to make Nike's for folks in Mumbai? Yea I dont see that happening but the idea is a fun movie idea.

A Brit lecturing the Americans on wordly injustice.......funny.

I fail to see your point as I am hardly my birthplaces decision maker.
I hate both the US and British goverments for thier hypocrisy and greed.
The west could never sell goods so cheaply if they weren't made as cheap as possible, thus the existence of sweatshops in "third world" countries.
The same politicians who allow such business practices then point to other countries and declare that imports are destroying home grown business

The habit of supporting puppet tyrants via very murky deals is something both Europe and the US and have had a hand in.

BTW I do not consider myself British ,I am English.
Just in case you don't know, there is a difference.

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Fate decides who walks into your life, you decide who you let stay, who you let walk away, and who you refuse to let walk out.

Calm down. You can trace my Granny's maiden name Manley back to the 1400's England. I kived in London with my gay cousin for a year before i went to college. Your a Brit or a Englishman, whatever floats your boat dude. I'm no unculcultured, untraveled, uneducated Yankee I can promise you.

I do my part, my wife drives a silly prius, I gladly pay taxes, recycle. Im all for low impact and America doing more globally, no biggie. I work hard offshore and deserve to splurge on whatever I want. I like shoes, expensive shoes. And I like big huge LCD'S for every room in my energy efficent, modest, 2200 sqaure foot house I live in w my wife and 2 kids and protect with 3 handguns. We do all that and guess what, kids are still gonna work for a little more than the other kids at sweatshops in India. I look out for my family my way, and you look out for yours your way. Neither is wrong. I just know that it's not gonna stop so I dont lose any sleep over it. I better stop now, my carbon footprint is gonna smother some poor baby in IndoChina.

That poor kid was probably eating bugs and crapping in the woods until that sweatshop showed up in his backyard and tripled the income of his entire family. Have you ever considered that the sweatshop could be the beginning of their industrial revolution, lifting an entire 3rd world country out of poverty over time? Consider India. Consider Japan, remember when everything they made was considered junk, I do.

What we need are more sweatshops set up in Mexico and Central America to decrease all the illegals coming over the border.

You call them sweatshops, I call them opportunity.

Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than all other systems combined.

It's raining where I live today, it's my first day on the political forum and I could rip this thread all day long, maybe I will

Later

but the liberal establishment and its followers demand that everything happen NOW. the fact that progress is a sometimes lethargic sort of creature seems to escape them entirely. just as they seem to be oblivious to the reality that it is the corruption in the government of those countries that allows their people to be exploited and would rather place all the blame on those evil businessmen. that reality hits a bit too close to home.

welcome to our small corner of paradise. we lost a whole lot of folks here in the shake-up a while back and i'm happy to see a new face willing to endure the insanity of our little political forum. hope to be ripping you a new one soon

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There was a shake up here? What happened?

I agree, Capitalism has it's ugly side, but it's helped way more than it hurt.....but whatever, call me evil. I capitalized on the housing market crash and scooped a 2007, 2000 sq ft Lennar House for way cheap ( that I can afford) that got forclosed on for my kids to play in a yard...........IM EVIL!!! BWAAAAAA

I guess it's all how you look at life.....take a crash or crisis and make it work for you. I did. Not sure what else a person can do, sit on sidelines? Not me.

D of N,
Didn't know there was a shakeup here, too bad. I was a regular @ CannabisWorld until they destroyed that fine site. Came here when I decided to make the switch to hydro last year.

At any rate, liberal politicians aren't interested in helping anyone, only consolidating power.
It's that whole give 'em a fish/teach 'em to fish thing. Liberal democrats will give enough fish to get your vote and keep your heart beating but if they teach you to fish, you don't need them anymore.

Been reading Mark Levin's "Tyranny and Liberty" lately. I highly recommend it if you're interested in how we got to where we are today.
I have less tolerance for liberals with every turn of the page.

But we're losing sight of this thread!!

1. Nazi armies controlled by the CIA in 1950.
1945 pretty much ended it for the Nazis didn't it, June 6th or thereabouts.

2. Land mines in Vietnam.
I say we sell them thousands of goats and a few sheepdogs. Send the goats through all the fields. When all the landmines have been found, they can get their skinny asses back to work making growing rice and making Nikes.