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skanking1121 · #1 (**permalink**) Apr-06-2009, 15:37

I'm about to make my second batch of the ganja butter and was wondering if my idea of using two oz. of vaped bud will be good per stick. So 2 oz./stick and I wanna make two sticks. What's your peeps thoughts on this? haha

lwien123 · #2 (**permalink**) Apr-06-2009, 16:33

Don't know if this is gonna help ya, but I saw a great recipe for firecrackers using vaped bud and it called for 5g per serving.

FourTwenty4Life · #3 (**permalink**) Apr-06-2009, 17:01

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Originally Posted by skanking1121

I'm about to make my second batch of the ganja butter and was wondering if my idea of using two oz. of vaped bud will be good per stick. So 2 oz./stick and I wanna make two sticks. What's your peeps thoughts on this? haha

That isn't enough butter. You have to remember that you will lose some of the butter during the straining process. I usually wait until I have about 1-2 ounces of vaped buds and combine with 1 1/2 pounds of butter and I usually end up with just about 1 pound of amazing, clean cannabutter. Make sure you read stinkyattic's thread on how to make a "clean" cannabutter because it works great.

skanking1121 · #4 (**permalink**) Apr-07-2009, 19:39

So then if I wanted to split up 4 oz, how many should it be per stick? And does that other thread work for making the butter with vaped bud too? It seems like it would, but don't wanna fuck this up haha

FourTwenty4Life · #5 (**permalink**) Apr-07-2009, 21:24

For 4oz use 3-3.5 lbs of butter. Yes it works for vaped buds because I've made it and got really high.

skanking1121 · #6 (**permalink**) Apr-07-2009, 21:53

What if I used only a pound of butter with the 4oz? That'd just make it uber tastier ehhhh?

FourTwenty4Life · #7 (**permalink**) Apr-07-2009, 23:19

I imagine it would be nice and strong. It depends how much you plan on using. I love cannabutter & jelly toast so I like to have more butter to use daily.

irydyum · #8 (**permalink**) Apr-08-2009, 00:03

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Originally Posted by FourTwenty4Life

For 4oz use 3-3.5 lbs of butter. Yes it works for vaped buds because I've made it and got really high.

Wouldn't it stand to reason that if you are getting more THC out of your vape duff, then you aren't vaping all your weed? My understanding was that the vaporizers big attraction was it's ability to extract almost 100% of THC from herb.

So if you were vaporizing all your bud, then making butter out of the duff, shouldn't all the THC already be gone?

Just some food for thought, I believe that you make it and that it works well, just curious if you weren't getting all the punch out of the vape, that's all.

FourTwenty4Life · #9 (**permalink**) Apr-08-2009, 00:18

You are correct about the loss of THC but there are things I do to preserve it. For starters, I will vape at lower temps so that not all the active compounds are released. Then. as I've mentioned in other threads, if I know I'm going to be making cannabutter, I only vape 2-3 bags which gets me plenty high. I could keep vaping and get the usual 5-7 bags per 0.4g of bud but I conserve when it's cannabutter time. I hope that helps clear things up.

irydyum · #10 (**permalink**) Apr-08-2009, 00:21

Just looking for something like that in the thread. Clears it up perfectly. I just pictured in my mind, a bunch of people, and they all vaped the crap out of their herb. They went to make butter and the butter was worthless, then they all mobbed me for not bringing it up.

PS: I'm not going to research all your other threads before I make a comment in this one.

FourTwenty4Life · #11 (**permalink**) Apr-08-2009, 00:46

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Originally Posted by irydyum

Just looking for something like that in the thread. Clears it up perfectly. I just pictured in my mind, a bunch of people, and they all vaped the crap out of their herb. They went to make butter and the butter was worthless, then they all mobbed me for not bringing it up.

PS: I'm not going to research all your other threads before I make a comment in this one.

I understand that you don't have to research my other threads. Sorry to come off as offensive...not my intent.

I usually toss some leftover kif and some bottom of the jar shake to the butter if I want to ensure more of a kick. I find that 2 pieces of cannabutter & jelly buzz me every morning with my coffee quite nicely.

Vaporizers certainly are the most efficient way of getting the most from your buds, from getting high once, twice, hash/kif, cannabutter, and these days even portable cord free vaping ...just amazing.

NiceDream · #12 (**permalink**) Apr-08-2009, 00:54

Any suggestions on a good ratio for just one stick of butter. I've been using about 3/4 of an ounce of vaped (3 - 4 bags at 400 degrees) and it doesn't seem like its getting me that baked. As far as I can tell I'm making good budder just not strong enough?

FourTwenty4Life · #13 (**permalink**) Apr-08-2009, 01:03

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Any suggestions on a good ratio for just one stick of butter. I've been using about 3/4 of an ounce of vaped (3 - 4 bags at 400 degrees) and it doesn't seem like its getting me that baked. As far as I can tell I'm making good budder just not strong enough?

Well first of all, 400 is way too high if you plan on making cannabutter. Try to stay below 373F. I'm not sure on how you're making your butter or the quality of your buds, both which will affect the outcome. I hope that helps.

NiceDream · #14 (**permalink**) Apr-08-2009, 12:08

If I have to vape at a lower temp, I'll prob just stick with weak budder because I like denser vapors in the bag. I boil a stick of butter and the vaped weed for 30 minutes, then strain the mixture thoroughly and cool in the fridge. I end up with a budder disc floating on top of all the crap water. I'll try using more vape I guess since I like to get most of the THC in the first go, thanks for the info.

FourTwenty4Life · #15 (**permalink**) Apr-08-2009, 13:01

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Originally Posted by NiceDream

If I have to vape at a lower temp, I'll prob just stick with weak budder because I like denser vapors in the bag. I boil a stick of butter and the vaped weed for 30 minutes, then strain the mixture thoroughly and cool in the fridge. I end up with a budder disc floating on top of all the crap water. I'll try using more vape I guess since I like to get most of the THC in the first go, thanks for the info.

The density of the vapor has nothing to do with the contents. Once you start reaching the higher temps, you're just getting closer to actual combustion therefore your vapor density tends to increase. It's all personal preference but in regards to the thread topic, you want lower temps. You can vape at much lower temps and see barely any vapor but still get super high, even ask VapedG13 on here. Maybe you have lower quality buds? I have already made butter with fully vaped (5 to 7 bags) buds and it still came out great. All these factors will determine your butters final outcome...vape temps, number of bags/whips vaped, quality of bud, method of making cannabutter & amount of butter used. If you are looking for more THC in the butter then common sense says just use fresh bud OR use the suggestions I have given you to get high and then high again with cannabutter.

I`m sorry that you are having trouble but it works great for me and others I know. I use this method constantly because of how often I must vape and I have found no better way to fullu utilize all my bud. Keep trying and you will figure it out. Practice makes perfect.

NiceDream · #16 (**permalink**) Apr-08-2009, 14:43

Interesting. I started vaping at 400 because thats what the storz&bickel guide said to use for herb. I assumed the thicker the vapor the more THC...seems logical. I'll try 373 and see if I still get as high (after my upcoming drug test). It's true my buds are not the greatest...just mid-grade.

FourTwenty4Life · #17 (**permalink**) Apr-08-2009, 16:18

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Originally Posted by NiceDream

Interesting. I started vaping at 400 because thats what the storz&bickel guide said to use for herb. I assumed the thicker the vapor the more THC...seems logical. I'll try 373 and see if I still get as high (after my upcoming drug test). It's true my buds are not the greatest...just mid-grade.

The S&B manual makes no mention of what temperatures to vaporize marijuana at. There is a thread in the vaporizer lounge dedicated to digital vape temps. Most prefer between 350F-378 it seems. Try to find some nug and you will see exactly what I mean.

NiceDream · #18 (**permalink**) Apr-08-2009, 18:52

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Originally Posted by FourTwenty4Life

The S&B manual makes no mention of what temperatures to vaporize marijuana at.

It didn't say marijuana specifically but it came with a temp guide for stuff like jasmine and other things you'd prob never vape. The last item was "herbs" which I took to mean their way of saying pot legally and the suggested temp was 400. Since it worked good at 400 I havn't strayed, but yeah I'll see what happens at lower temps.

NiceDream · #19 (**permalink**) Apr-08-2009, 19:06

Hmm...I'm looking at it again and it says Thyme, which is the only one that has "the herb" used as the plant part and it's 374 so not sure where I got 400 from. Oh well...I just can't wait to be able to vape again (at any temp).

ordeith · #20 (**permalink**) Apr-09-2009, 10:22

I just made some brownies and used vaped toasties as the foundation. I also cooked them in oil; which is far easier than making butter. I used about twice the amount of normal shake and these things are absolutely nuclear.

I'll be cooking in oil from now on...the whole process took 20 minutes (plus the time to make the brownies).

skanking1121 · #21 (**permalink**) Apr-09-2009, 18:14

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Originally Posted by FourTwenty4Life

I only vape 2-3 bags which gets me plenty high. I could keep vaping and get the usual 5-7 bags per 0.4g of bud but I conserve when it's cannabutter time

Whoa whoa whoa wait just a sec... you vape your shit 5-7 bags? what temp? around 200C? Cause I usually only vape it 2 times max with .4g and that's when I think it's all gone... Not true?

FourTwenty4Life · #22 (**permalink**) Apr-09-2009, 19:05

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Originally Posted by skanking1121

Whoa whoa whoa wait just a sec... you vape your shit 5-7 bags? what temp? around 200C? Cause I usually only vape it 2 times max with .4g and that's when I think it's all gone... Not true?

Yes. 362F-372F if making cannabutter. 362F-380 range if going for all 5-7 bags.

MadSativa · #23 (**permalink**) Apr-09-2009, 19:22

I thought you were supposed to make cannabutter from real bud not vaped stuff. That doesn't even sound appealing

FourTwenty4Life · #24 (**permalink**) Apr-10-2009, 00:21

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Originally Posted by MadSativa

I thought you were supposed to make cannabutter from real bud not vaped stuff. That doesn't even sound appealing

You are but vaped bud is no different, you just have to use more. The title of the thread is Ratio of VAPED bud for ganja butter, hence me trying to help.

skanking1121 · #25 (**permalink**) Apr-10-2009, 10:07

Sweeeeeeet. I just gotta find a crock pot now cause I don't wanna do it over my stove again. Took forrrrrrrrrrrrrrevvvvvvvvverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrr and I'm lazy haha. What's the url to that other guys thead you were talking about earlier FourTwenty4Life?

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