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    Quote Originally Posted by rsjrv99 View Post
    SOLUTION

    It has been a while since I posted this and I have since FIXED my problem completely.

    The problem was too low heat, and I believe this is most definitely the problem pretty much everyone is having.

    The oven at 320F meant the firecrackers only got to a core temperature of 175-190F, not hot enough.

    The double boiler method, where I used oil in a glass jar within boiling water, only got the oil to a temp of about 160-180F, not hot enough.

    None of these 'easy' edible methods work or are at all worth it in any way. Save your product.

    Here's my "how-to" that I have perfected over the last few months, NEVER HAVE HAD A FAILED BATCH.

    You will need
    -Product
    -Coconut oil
    -Laser Infared Thermometer ($15)

    1. Oven to 225F, put ungrinded product in oven for 5-10 min.
    2. Grind while it is warm and very dry, turns into a very fine powder with minimal effort. Turn grinder upside if it has a passthrough and grind
    3. Place 1/2 cup of Coconut Oil (Best oil for this, pure saturated fat, MCT and NO water) in pan and turn to low heat
    4. Allow coconut oil to melt (76F), then dump powdered product into oil and stir

    --Important Stage--

    This part is fairly important, and if you want to do it right you will NEED a laser infared thermometer. Not a candy thermometer, or an oven thermometer, you need something that can read temperature accurately at a needle point, you will not be able to submerge regular thermometers deep enough for proper readings.

    My stove's dial goes from "LO - 2 - 3...7 - 8 - HI", I use settings 2-6 for this process at specific times. Remember to take temperatures often and stir. I included my reasoning to the steps.

    5. Heat oil slowly to 175-190F, allow to sit for 30minutes (Activate THC, remove acid, water vapor releases)
    6. Raise temperature to 210-230F, allow to sit for at least 30 minutes.
    7. Raise temperature to 315-330F for 5 minutes (A small heat 'shock' will help melt any resin heads, I believe this step is the absolute most important)
    8. Lower temperature to 230-250F, allow to sit for another hour
    9. Lower temperature to 175F and allow to sit for any period of time, 15min or 24 hours, does not matter, although longer will produce a more pronounced couch lock effect
    10. Make brownies in oven at 300F, consume 0.5g worth
    11. Wait 2 hours, sky high for rest of night

    NOTE: If you don't have a thermometer, you can use this method, although it will not be as reliable. Add water (1/4 cup to a 1/2 cup of oil) and when you see it begin to boil you can assume the solution is around 200-212F, since water boils at 212F and cannot exceed 212F. Then adjust your dial accordingly, turn it down and see where it stops boiling, and slowly increase it (giving 5 min inbetween each very small turn) to see where it stops boiling and where it begins boiling. You can use this as your temperature guide, when I personally did it the dial was on 3 and very minute changes +/- would make it boil/stop boiling.
    Thank you for this, after making cannabutter a few times and feeling little to no effect, this makes a lot of sense. If you're putting butter in water, of course it can't get past 212 degrees. Then, even though it's in a 325 degree oven, there's no way my brownies ever get anywhere near 300 degrees in the center.

    I tried again making cannabutter using the simmer in water method the other day and made cookie brownie bars this morning. Tasty, but little effect at best. I used 32 grams of quality buds in 1 lb of butter so I'd have 1 gram per tablespoon. I used 12 tablespoons of butter and cut the brownie bars into 12 portions, and I ate two of them on a completely empty stomach.

    I plan on trying your recipe soon and will post with my results.

    One question - I still have a bunch of cannabutter left - do you think it would work if I melted it down in half a cup of coconut oil and then followed your directions, or would it burn? I don't think butter will take the high heat, or will mixing it with coconut oil fix that?

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    Turns out the smoke point of butter is 350, so I attempted to melt the cannabutter down, keep it around 300 or so for 15-20 minutes, then cool. I got distracted and it got as high as 400, but since there was no smoke I don't know if my laser thermometer is accurate. I am going out for a ride on the motorcycle, then will try a tablespoon of this butter on some toast or something, and see what happens. Will update if they are stronger than the brownies.

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    Ate a toasted bagel with a tablespoon of the cannabutter... and an hour later, nothing. Not sure whats up. Maybe I let temps get too high... But that's another ounce of weed in the trash...

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    that's why I smoke my shit not eat it....................^^^^^^

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    decarb your weed before you add it to your butter..... set oven to 250... weed in it for about 5 -10 min

    I make my cannabuuter from my vaporizer left overs....alot stronger than when I use fresh dry weed in the butter
    Last edited by VapedG13; Jul-09-2012 at 23:50.

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