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Mississippi Steve calm down a bit and read what Land of Drought was saying, the SG and FDA doesnt have anything to do with Ireland policies... it amazes me how many people dont read.. and just type.
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none they are all ball-less...f-ing politicians
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I don't believe that any of them could do a damn thing. Yes, I like Ron Paul too (b/c of his Libertarian values of small government and personal freedoms) however even if he was voted in he'd have one hell of a time fighting congress and everyone else. The checks and balances would tear him apart.
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actually, the executive branch is solely responsible for enforcing the laws made by congress or the interpretation of the courts. congress can pass whatever law it wants, but as long as the president so demands, no enforcement of that law can be done, making it useless. ron paul could (and has said he would) waltz in there as president, wave his hands, and instantly "legalize" drugs and pardon all drug offenders, etc.
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i don't think any of them will do anything, I think there are just saying it to get more votes..
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i don't think any of them will do anything, I think there are just saying it to get more votes..
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Good point...
But I think Id still go with some one who is at least SAYING they are gonna do things to make us any closer to legalized or even decrinalize more...
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The best candidate who will protect mmj as well as the best overall candidate for the nation in my opinion, is the one who will, the way the trend has become, never be able to run. These days you must be a multi-millionaire or take millions from "special interests" & corporations with expectations of of access and returned favors to become president.The best & brightest cannot afford to run or will not run because they won't sell out.
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The best candidate who will protect mmj as well as the best overall candidate for the nation in my opinion, is the one who will, the way the trend has become, never be able to run. These days you must be a multi-millionaire or take millions from "special interests" & corporations with expectations of of access and returned favors to become president.The best & brightest cannot afford to run or will not run because they won't sell out.
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I disagree friend, Ron Paul defies each of your constraints this minute. 2nd in nevada hmmm. little harder to rig all those machines.
In my opinion, We should just come to the conclusion that "we the people" outnumber and outrank those placed in government to SERVE US, With that knowledge in hand we could theoretically be "FREE".
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I disagree friend, Ron Paul defies each of your constraints this minute. 2nd in nevada hmmm. little harder to rig all those machines.
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Yeah that was quite a feat!
2nd in a 2 man race in a state where he may have more support than anywhere else in the nation? That is not good, especially when you take into account that he got his ass handed to him and it wasn't even close. I admire your enthusiasm but seriousely the people have obviously spoken time and time again, Ron Paul will never have the support he needs for many many reasons, the results speak for themselves. If you don't believe me then just wait and see, I will bet anyone anything that Ron Paul will not only NOT be the nominee but he will not be president either. Any takers?
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Well I'm in Louisiana and From my view, I believe he has this state. Early projections have him in a far lead here. Also, there was very much news about the "confusion of the delegate process", This means only one thing, Lots and lots of new delegates and caucusers. I wonder where all these new and young(and apparently confused) delegates came from???? Oh yeah, Grassroots. Louisiana is one of the grass root states due to its delegate process involving just average registered voters.
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Mississippi Steve calm down a bit and read what Land of Drought was saying, the SG and FDA doesnt have anything to do with Ireland policies... it amazes me how many people dont read.. and just type.
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Not only that he was an asshole about it.
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<sigh> Like I said.... do your homework. Go back to about 1963 when Coke, Heroin, MJ and a bunch of other "street" drugs were classified as having *no medicinal value* and no more research could be done on them. The classification system was set up so that individual drugs could have their classification changed without literally requiring an act of congress.
The DEA and Surgen General have to change the clasification of MJ *BEFORE* it can be legalized.
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Just because a government agency acts outside of its bounds, it doesn't make it legal. Judges at state and federal levels have basically created laws, and so has the president.
Many unelected government and non-congressional agencies in the past and right now, have created and are creating laws, this I concede. This is completely unconstitutional. There is no where in the constitution that allows for this. But, We The People do not need to rely on judges, governors, presidents, the DEA, BATF, or IRS to reverse these unconstitutional laws, only our state and U.S. congresses.
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if any of the dems was to back our rights it'd be the black guy, cuz the woman is already scared of the "race issue", if I were a politician I would back up our rights, as there are approx. 160million people in the world that use cannabis daily, I bet a nice chunk of that 160million lives in the U.S., there go The voters to back you right there
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I agree... the Libertarian party isn't against marijuana at all.
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THis is true, the Libertarian party is one that advocates personal freedom, allowing the individual to make their own choices. Does that not seem like the way it should be ? It's too bad we've been conditioned to believe that we need the government to make these decisions for us
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The topic of cannabis and the "War on Drugs" has taken a back seat to immigration, universal health care, terrorism, and Iraq.
(Ironically, the money spent on the war on drugs could easily be spent for health care and security issues in the US)
I use to be very optimistic but now ... I think BOTH sides of the argument are gaining no ground. The government continues to spend billions of dollars on something that will NEVER change, while the supporters don't convince enough people to support the cause ... thus, the laws remain.
The cannabis movement would need a very popular and vocal person to create "buzz" about the issue in order for changes to take place IMHO. If "no one" is talking about it ... then "no one" cares about the issue. Out of sight ... out of mind.
Ron Paul would be a huge step however. But he's not going to win the Republican vote ... let alone make it to the White House. Even then, there would be a lot of people in Congress to fight off.
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Kucinich was far and away the best candidate, but he did not get the respect and coverage he deserved, and my fellow dumbass conutrymen just wouldn't vote for him. So he dropped out. Like I saw someone say in another forum, popularity in the US is inversely related to quality. How true! That guy was a genius! Whether in politics or real life, this is so true. First, social popularity. Popular women tend to be airhead bimbo flakes, and popular guys tend to be big alcoholic violent jerks who do not respect the beautiful women they attract. They have all the luck while the good men go without dates and get none. Now politics: those at the bottom of the Democratic list were forced to drop out, Richardson and Kucinich. And they are clearly better than that Hillary bitch and Obama by far. People are so dumb, they just support her because she is powerful and well known, because she sure as hell doesn't have the best stance on any issue besides the space program. So now who? A third party candidate that will never in a million years get elected? Kucinich was from a major party and was for ending the Drug War and all wars. The environment, healthcare, the economy, education, you name it and he had the best position on every issue. Stupid America, they will probably elect another dumbass like Bush again. Makes me embarassed to be American!
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When I said "bitch" I just mean she is snobby and condescending and not at all what I want in a Presidential candidate, I have nothing against women Presidents at all if they are the RIGHT woman. And Republicans are never the answer. All those bastards want is war and to oppress the poor and downtrodden. Blame everything on immigrants and oppress them, fight wars only for oil and due to anti-Islamic bigotry, and cut needed funds to the poor to give tax breaks to the rich and corporations. Tax break us right into a recession in fact. Don't get me started on those bastards! Narrow-minded, always wanting to stop progress instead of encouraging it. We need to get tough on fossil fuels and use greener energy, end wars, help the poor, and have a stronger space program as the economy of the future depends on it. At this point I guess I am down to third party choices or not to vote.
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I'm actually thinking none of the candidates are going to legalize or decriminilize it or look out for those of us using MMJ. When George and his merry band of fascists compare Marijuana users to terrorists it kind of ruins it for those of us who have serious psychological "ticks" or physiological illnesses that need or struggle without it - or a suitable relief.
As someone who was luckily never prescribed ritalin I feel I need something to curb my ADHD.
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Lest we should not forget the electoral college. I hope I need not remind everyone that these retards let bush into office. I also believe that we need to stop depending/relying on politicians to do this work for us. They all get paid for this win or lose (win/win for the pollys). There are only two things that I believe can help us now. One: ourselves, Two: media. Truth is liberation and change especially for the ignorant. Use the media to control the flow of information we all want so desperately relayed and ourselves (we'll probably need millions for this) to stand at "the gate" or in essence the capital until change happens. WE THE PEOPLE are supposed to have the real power. Even if the government doesn't believe this lets make them feel some REAL HEAT for our change! Anyone with me?
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I always got a little funny feeling when I saw Bill Richardson on the news, was a little disappointed when he ended his campaign, but it was expected. He never did nearly as well as he should have, that guy has better experience than Clinton and Obama combined, and signed medical marijuana into New Mexico law. Nobody else, not even Ron Paul, has a record of helping patients become legally protected for using medical marijuana.
Yes Ron Paul would do everything in his power to help patients, but Richardson had actually done something. You gotta respect someone who walks the walk!
Now who do I think will best protect medical marijuana patients? The Doctor of course, Dr. Ron Paul! I'm amazed at how quickly the mainstream media, and regular people too, dismiss Ron Paul's view on ending the war on drugs completely. Call that crazy all you want, but when somebody who has actually worked in the medical field talks about medicine, I think he deserves a little damn respect! So I choose Ron Paul even though you specifically said not to, because if he wasn't running I wouldn't even bother voting for president. I don't like any of the other candidates and would never vote for a less evil candidate.
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Ron Paul. I think the DEA might ease up a lil on the medical patients.
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The DEA says medical marijuana already exists - marinol.
Don't expect any of them to really push a decriminalization platform.
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Ron Paul is the only candidate who even speaks the words marijuana and de-criminalization in the same sentence.
Come on people look into this. This is a serious year and we can make this happen.
Vote Ron Paul and join A ronpaulmeetup group.
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