The best way I can explain this is trying to fully understand the concept of duality and understanding early Christianity.

Lets start from the beginning. The Bible has both an Old and a New Testament. The Old is the old law..and the New is the new law. We'll consider the OT "Dark" because of its draconian laws....and the NT "Light" for its love and acceptance of sinners.

Then this man Y'shua of Nazareth comes along in the mid 20s-30s AD preaching love and acceptance. He went AGAINST the established religious order.

My research and beliefs have led me to believe that Jesus came to fully explain the purpose of religion...that it is basically a test and it is not really needed...as love is the way to God...not rules and regulations as the OT concerned itself with. He displayed the balance of "rules and love". Yes rules are put in place...put you learn why they are broken.

Jesus was than crucified as a criminal. In the Synoptic Gospels (Matt-Mark-Luke), Jesus is crucified because he cleanses the Temple. In John..which is really a Gnostic influenced Gospel which was almost ousted from the Bible, Jesus is crucified for raising Lazarus. Understand the differences too between the Gospels as there are contradictions to them.

Jesus was a rebel, plain and simple. He forgave others, where the law said to condemn. HE SHOWED COMPASSION!!!! That is integration of both light/dark. Jesus' god was not the God of destruction or the dead...but of life.

No pain...no gain. We need evil and bad stuff in this world so we can realize that it is the struggle which makes us grow spiritually. Jesus discovered this and taught it. As much as I don't like it in my current mindset here on Earth..I accept it.

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Jesus is against Cannabis prohibition.

Those Old Testament (OT) laws are beyond my ability to reconcile with the concept of a loving God, maybe a Rabbi could explain it but not me.

When you talk about doing away with the law, there is a difference between the law as represented in the OT and the laws as God intended. It is the latter which are not done away with, the former are of men (obviously I don't take them literally, though I know many do).

I readily admit I do not have all the answers, and I don't know anyone who does. What I do know is that "Love Thy Neighbor" includes everyone, and I believe those three words are the crux of the entire New Testament.

I think they should re-write the bible, into modern terms. For example

{Leviticus 20:13}
would become

or (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

would be

this is an epic idea... if only I had the time to translate the ENTIRE bible from bible-babble to modern-day terms... I think a lot more people would read the bible if it were in words they could understand (since people don't like to think too hard, nowadays)

Not at this point in my development, it is somthing that must be self taught, but it is also somthing you already have full knowlage of. Newborn babies are fully enabled like Jesus, but that experience is forgotten as they grow up.

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I'm not saying that Jesus hates people that smoke because there is never judgment involved with the way God works. Jesus has suggested though, that smoking is not a great thing for spiritual change, which is all he cares about..humanity rising spiritually and freedom from the dominance of self.

I am quitting now so that I can get a job which requires a drug test before training and random testing during employment. Its a little Ironinc..today Im gonna smoke the rest of what I got cause training will start the first monday of august..got a few hours to smoke an eighth

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huh? where the hell are you getting all this crap? i was enabled like jesus as a baby??? god doesn't make judgments??? "religious" people are funny.

I am not "religious" I follow no guidelines as to how to guide my spirituality. I am getting this crap (you can call truth crap, its still not going to change just for you) from sincerly studying spiritual text only that I believe to be true.

Judgement is a human ideal, God does not judge, God will love you completely and equally no matter what you do in this life. There is no judgement.

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he 'was' against cannabis...

let me guess, you're one of the "i'm not RELIGIOUS, but i am very SPIRITUAL", people? and since you're following your own spiritual guidelines, your own rules, your own bible, it must be the truth.

lmao...are you serious? god does not judge??? well, let's see...god did pass judgment on the entire human race when adam and eve decided to eat some fruit, and then there was that minor flood because god didn't like our evil ways, and there was that little city called sodom that he destroyed, and then there were those plagues on egypt-frogs, flies, disease, death-that was especially touching.

the list goes on and on. since when did god become too good to judge? even "religious" people have coined it DIVINE JUDGMENT. like god's too good for just regular old judgment. fear is a huge part of religion and how do you produce fear if god doesn't pass judgment?

Well if Jesus is against cannabis then he most be pissed at his Holy Father because look what he has done...the seed has been spread throughout the very Earth he created--basically everywhere. But yeah, there's no doubt that God is a fan of that Mary Jane.

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>>Are we closer than ever to Legalization of Marijuana?"<<

I truly believe GOD put herb on earth for us......

It's the abuse, money and greed that comes from weed that is contolled by evil.

Just like GOD created Adam & Eve, but despite his warning, they still bit the apple.

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No, it is his belief.

A truth is not subjective, it does not depend on the person who is stating it, a truth is a truth is a truth no matter where it comes from, who says it, or when it was said.

a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like;
ideal or fundamental reality apart from and transcending perceived experience

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- Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintainence.

who cares if some bloke whos been dead for 1000's of years was for or against weed fuck him lol get with the times

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While I agree with your sentiments about living in the present, by definition Jesus is relevant in this discussion because this thread is a question about Him.

All: I reiterate my belief that He probably used cannabis as a Healer (on patients), as most healers did in those times. The only way He would be against it would be if one allowed it to control their lives, and He would be against any other controlling proclivity as well. Alcohol, sex, drugs, power, and anything else which dominates your life so that it clouds your purpose here are what He opposes.

Life is vastly bigger than any of these things, and (again, imho) He wants us to realize that and see all that this existence offers.

Peace.

jesus fullfield the law for us, and died upon the cross to set us free from the law, if we belive that he did this for us then are sins are forgivin. that is the good news for all men, that is the message of the new testment, we are under GRACE, its that simple.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that was pure gold

isnt that about how words are weapons that can destroy someone so watch wat u say? atleast thats my understanding of wat u quoted

Jesus was annointed with cannabis oil then he became Super Jesus. The rest is history.

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1. I dont accept anything to be truth unless it is completely obvious. 2. God does not judge, if you want to believe in fairty tales than good for you.

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Mark my words, believe my soul lives on;
Don't worry, now that I have gone;
I've gone beyond to see the truth.
So when you know that your time is close at hand;
Maybe then you'll begin to understand;
Life down there is just a strange illusion.

Curious, are you referring to the stories about Adam and Eve, the Flood, and whatnot as fairy tales, or to the idea of God being a fairy tale?

Would be kinda ironic that you would imply stories about a possible fictional entity are false, but the possible fictional entity whose entire existance is based upon those same stories isnt.

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"This is the ghost of normal everday assumptions which declares that the ultimate purpose of life, which is to keep alive, is impossible, but that this is the ultimate purpose of life anyway, so that great minds struggle to cure diseases so that people may live longer, but only "mad-men" ask why. One lives longer in order that he may live longer. There is no other purpose. That is what the ghost says."
- Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintainence.

I believe they were real stories, but they have been turned into fairy tales. ..your a fictional entinty?

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Mark my words, believe my soul lives on;
Don't worry, now that I have gone;
I've gone beyond to see the truth.
So when you know that your time is close at hand;
Maybe then you'll begin to understand;
Life down there is just a strange illusion.

BE the Light, BE in the Light, BE of the Light. Do all within the
Light,
and they will see you and will understand. Know we are all a part of
the
whole. We must help our brothers. For not to do that would cause you to
stay
where you are at now. We must all work together to be part of the One.

I do not wish to be called "Lord". I am your brother.

I do not wish you to bow down to me. I am one with you.

I do not wish you to make crosses with my body on it, for I do not want
that
image to be portrayed.

I am one with the Father. I am one with you. We are all part of the
whole.
Become that which is to come.
~Jesus Christ

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Mark my words, believe my soul lives on;
Don't worry, now that I have gone;
I've gone beyond to see the truth.
So when you know that your time is close at hand;
Maybe then you'll begin to understand;
Life down there is just a strange illusion.

Jesus was a mushroom.

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