Thread: will you go to heaven or not

if i do i hope ther will be weed ther and kfc

Buddha will sit on God's knee, throwing peices of KFC into his mouth.

no, because heaven is man made, and it is only in our minds.

No God = No Heaven = stay high till the day that i die!
I hope that makes sense... i'm soo baked

Originally Posted by blueburyboy

if i do i hope ther will be weed ther and kfc

I second that! That would be a kick ass heaven if it were real!

religion was made by the rich, for the poor.

If heaven and hell WERE real, which they are not, i'd definatly be going to hell. Deep down im alright, but i can be a real c*nt, and am most of the time. Hey, at least my lighter will never run out down they're - and there will be plenty of ganja - that's IF it really IS the devils weed.

Forget heaven, I want HELL! The searing heat, I'd love it personally.

how are u guys so certain in the lack of any heaven or hell?

because humans made it up?

Originally Posted by Stemis516

how are u guys so certain in the lack of any heaven or hell?

Simply: There are people who believe and people who don't, so if I answer your question, you have to answer mine.

I am one who doesn't believe in God or the bible. That doesn't mean I am Athiest as they are just as close minded. I am not sure how we all got created, but I am not going to accept the first thing that is thrown at me. Why? Because the reason we are given why we are here is not logical. An invisable man in the sky and a ressurection is impossible logic. It is not proven. It is a man made prophecy and does not sound logical. I prefer to find these answers myself to why we were created and how we came about. That's my jouney to figure out.

Now, why are you so sure there is a heaven or a hell?

If I die, I certainly wouldn't be subjected to hell's fury.

What is heaven or hell?

The way i see it is that hells gotta be the better place to hang out.
I mean the devils gotta have some danke ass weed and he's gotta throw some bomb parties.

I am an atheist so i dont really believe in heaven or hell but if they do exist. I certainly haven't done anything that would warrant me going to hell, I like to think Im a fairly good person, i volunteer and stuffs.

well ther is only one way to find out and its not a nice way thats my theriy

I want some pizza

Heaven won't have me and Hell is scared I'll take over.

I wonder about this kinda stuff all the time if I'm stoned and alone. Maybe "heaven" is whatever your mind perceives it to be...my idea of heaven would be endless water, endless relaxation, endless peace of mind.

Nah, if you're always relaxed and peaceful, where's the variety? It's all good until someone gets hurt, then it's hilarious. Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely, in a nicely and well preserved body; but rather, to skid in broadside, thoroughly fucked up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "FUCK YEAH! What a ride!"

I have no idea if Heaven or Hell exists, or God exists or not. Simply put, none of us know what is awaiting us after this life. We can imagine, and make up our own ideas, but it does not matter - because it would never affect the end result.

If there is a hell or heaven, I'd probably be going to hell. Not because I'm a bad person, but because in this life I'd rather control my own mind the best that I can. I want to do whatever I want to do. That's my philosophy... enjoy life no matter what, as long as you are not doing it at the expense of someone else's enjoyment of life.

Well... what i will describe is only a theory, but for me makes sense.
Heaven and hell are described as timeless places we go after our death, and where we stay forever.
But time is relative. As every stoner knows, one minute can feel like hours... so what is one second for one people dont necessarily means one second for another.
Well... its believed that when our body is dying our brain is flooded with neurotransmitters and other substances, one of which is the DMT, a HEAVY hallucinogenic. And it makes the time to go slowwww.
So, i think both heaven and hell are states of mind, (or "trips" like some people would say) felt by people due the release of hallucinogens in the dying brain.
And, as every tripper knows, set and setting plays a fundamental role in the "trip". So, if a person was a good person, and had a positive view of the death ("when i die i will go to heaven"), then when it start to feel the hallucinations it will regard it as being in heaven. Yet if the people's view of the death were fearsome, the "trip" will be hellish.
And now enters the relativity of the time. For we, that are alive, the death of a person takes only few moments. But for the dying person, their "trippily" distorted perception of time may make this moments feels like forever. Forever being in hell of heaven.

Originally Posted by Coelho

Well... what i will describe is only a theory, but for me makes sense.
Heaven and hell are described as timeless places we go after our death, and where we stay forever.
But time is relative. As every stoner knows, one minute can feel like hours... so what is one second for one people dont necessarily means one second for another.
Well... its believed that when our body is dying our brain is flooded with neurotransmitters and other substances, one of which is the DMT, a HEAVY hallucinogenic. And it makes the time to go slowwww.
So, i think both heaven and hell are states of mind, (or "trips" like some people would say) felt by people due the release of hallucinogens in the dying brain.
And, as every tripper knows, set and setting plays a fundamental role in the "trip". So, if a person was a good person, and had a positive view of the death ("when i die i will go to heaven"), then when it start to feel the hallucinations it will regard it as being in heaven. Yet if the people's view of the death were fearsome, the "trip" will be hellish.
And now enters the relativity of the time. For we, that are alive, the death of a person takes only few moments. But for the dying person, their "trippily" distorted perception of time may make this moments feels like forever. Forever being in hell of heaven.

That's really interesting Coelho because I have the same belief! I don't actually know if and how you carry on after death, but if you do I believe the mindset you go out with affects whatever happens thereafter. And you're that dying is the ultimate trip, your body releases all it's seratonin/dopamine/endorphines hitting you harder than any hallucinogen could. As for DMT, I recall hearing about this, but doesn't it basically work by binding to certain seratonergic receptors?

Originally Posted by Coelho

Well... what i will describe is only a theory, but for me makes sense.
Heaven and hell are described as timeless places we go after our death, and where we stay forever.
But time is relative. As every stoner knows, one minute can feel like hours... so what is one second for one people dont necessarily means one second for another.
Well... its believed that when our body is dying our brain is flooded with neurotransmitters and other substances, one of which is the DMT, a HEAVY hallucinogenic. And it makes the time to go slowwww.
So, i think both heaven and hell are states of mind, (or "trips" like some people would say) felt by people due the release of hallucinogens in the dying brain.
And, as every tripper knows, set and setting plays a fundamental role in the "trip". So, if a person was a good person, and had a positive view of the death ("when i die i will go to heaven"), then when it start to feel the hallucinations it will regard it as being in heaven. Yet if the people's view of the death were fearsome, the "trip" will be hellish.
And now enters the relativity of the time. For we, that are alive, the death of a person takes only few moments. But for the dying person, their "trippily" distorted perception of time may make this moments feels like forever. Forever being in hell of heaven.

That's an EXTREMELY good explanation/theory. I like it!

Originally Posted by Nochowderforyou

Simply: There are people who believe and people who don't, so if I answer your question, you have to answer mine.

I am one who doesn't believe in God or the bible. That doesn't mean I am Athiest as they are just as close minded. I am not sure how we all got created, but I am not going to accept the first thing that is thrown at me. Why? Because the reason we are given why we are here is not logical. An invisable man in the sky and a ressurection is impossible logic. It is not proven. It is a man made prophecy and does not sound logical. I prefer to find these answers myself to why we were created and how we came about. That's my jouney to figure out.

Now, why are you so sure there is a heaven or a hell?

im not certain on the existence or the lackthereof of either heaven or hell.....my question was directed at those who claimed differently

If there's a heaven, I strongly believe I will be there.