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Old Jul-20-2004, 20:57
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Allow me to school you kids right quick...and this is all you need to know about this topic.

King James Bible - Psalms 104:14 "He causeth the grass for the cattle, and the herb for the service of man."

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Old Aug-09-2004, 08:27
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Gah, the catholic church can kiss my ass, they also gave Hitler money to fund his concentration camps to make a more "Pure" society. So who cares what catholisism teaches, specially since they believe in ethnic cleansing.
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Old Aug-09-2004, 10:41
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Given that catholicism is only one form of christianity I'd say about a third of the population of the planet "cares what catholisism teaches". That figure was plucked out of thin air but you started it. The Vatican 'gave' Hitler gold because he said 'can we have it or should I destroy the vatican and kill everyone?' And "specially since they believe in ethnic cleansing." Huh? You personally have proof the Pope supports ethnic cleansing or your mate's friend's dad's butcher said he did?

See what you did!!!? You got me defending fucking catholics!!!

If you want to spew sectarian shite do it at home.

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Old Aug-11-2004, 09:45
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I'll have to agree with you Rogue. I think God only wants us to be happy without hurting other people or ourselves so maybe God encourages marijuana smoking more than drinking because you're not hurting anybody through doing so. Plus, ganja helps you to appreciate God's creations to a greater extent.
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Old Aug-15-2004, 01:35
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As with anything concerning sin, there is no strict commandment that covers this issue about whether or not you should be taking mind altering substances. However, there is only one "way" use of wine or marijuana is actually permitted. This is the way jesus used it, and any other person that wants a greater connection to your soul. If you are using it with the idea that it is a sacriment towards your god. As an aid to purify and silence your inner mind. If you meditate on the silence and stillness.

So, if you have the stillness of the mind under control, then wine and marijuana would not be altering your mind. Or if you have a really active mind, and these substances aid you in relaxing your thoughts, then it should be considered a mind alteration for the better.

If you are using these substances while thinking sinful thoughts, or committing sins, then, of course, it is definately also a sin.
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Old Aug-15-2004, 09:06
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Whoever teaches that having "mind altering substances" is a sin.

Someone said it, I wasn't really paying attention to names.

Perhaps you would like to know, that cannabis is a plant, grown by god, seeing as everything created on earth, was created by him.

I suppose you *COULD* argue that its a classic example of adam and eve, and the forbidden fruit, although chances are you'd be very hard pressed to use that arguement successfully.

Also, beer, or Ale as it was formally known, was in fact created by monks of the christian faith using water powered mill's to grind many of the ingrediants needed to make ale, they also used the water from the rivers ( that was powering the mill) as the liquid they used along with the ingrediants to make the ale.

So........................
God created weed.
Man, in the following of god, created ale.
I suppose, you could argue, that ale was in fact created by the egyptians, but due to their process of making ale, it was infact a very hard thing to drink.
Because they used 2 stones to grind the ingrediants together, which obviously left a small quantity of ground stone in the drink.
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Old Aug-15-2004, 16:19
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i think its interesting that ''man's'' idea of "god" is a white, male, man. Seems alittle fishy to me, i personally do not believe in "God." I think Darwin sums it up best when he said

"I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created parasitic wasps with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars."

Maybe "aliens" started life on earth, that is a thought i have been pondering lately.
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Old Aug-16-2004, 06:13
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Most of us are sinners who sin everyday so I don't think smoking weed will annoy him that much.
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Old Aug-17-2004, 02:49
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Smile A thought to ponder....

Our society has become so conditioned by the right-wing, christian, puritan ethic that certain things are sinful and therefore wrong. This stream of thought has caused more damage to people in this country than any substance, narcotic or otherwise, can ever do. Whether it be smoking a little weed or having sex, the christian right has literally TRAUMATIZED people into thinking that they will go to HELL for doing such simple, natural things as, for example, masturbation, having sex out of wed-lock because, well, you're horney, having sex with members of the same sex, having sex with members of the opposite sex, or just having sex, period. Such bullshit! There are more disfunctional people in this society due to these right-wing hypocritical bastards than any other element I can think of right now. Anyway, the concept of "sin" is just an oppressive tactic of control.
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Old Aug-17-2004, 16:14
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y the fuck do ppl come on here n badmouth other religionz...az if ery single person ov that religion supported n still supportz nazism er sum bullshit like that. get a fuckin life bud. n az fer the weed, i dunt think smokin weed iz a sin. itz natural. n wut other herb fer the service ov man cood he been talkin bout? oregano aint rlly used 2 the service ov man, juss flavourz the food. lol
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Old Aug-17-2004, 17:28
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I'm just curious since id prefer hell over being stuck with a bunch of mormons in heaven but if im good will I still get to go to hell? I just want to make sure I get to meet all those cool people from all those polytheistic societies after all they can't be in heaven either right? Plato surely is not in heaven he would never accept gods will since he was a huge supporter of Athena....And if one god is true then all of them are by the same basis of assumption. So the question is where are MY gods ,,,, where is my Ares, Hades , Zeus!! where's my Osiris, Isis and Set!!! damn me , damn me all too hell (sorry couldnt resist)
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Old Aug-17-2004, 23:10
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well this iz the major problem ov a religion dating back so far in history, back then EVERYONE thot that it b best that they wait till there married 2 have sex. now obviously nowadayz thingz r different, thingz have changed in the world. now ppl dunt care ta wait till their married, but i dunt think they think there goin 2 hell fer not waitin. after all, if god iz az forgivin az hez supposed 2 b, hed forgive all our sinz n there wood b noone ta send 2 hell. i dunt agree wit how yer supposed ta wait till yer married n it cant b wit the same sex, but i do understand y yer supposed ta wait. u see, god gave us sexual organz to recreate life, therefore, he only wantz us ta use these organz to create life. Also, u see, u gotta think bout how far back theze rulez r datin, back when sex dint happen az recreation. can u see my point? i aint badmouthin catholicz like u other idiotz did, all im sayin iz that itz a religion that rlly duznt fit this time period. so ov course the die hard catholic followerz r expectin thingz ov ppl that juss aint gunna happen. i think god realizes that this iz a new day an age, therefore our valuez n moralz r different. ITZ CALLED EVOLUTION, do u rlly think that u cood make a religion that wood go along wit the average oppinion ov the ppl on earth, and expect that in 1,000 yrz moralz on earth willnot b totally different? an if u knew anythin bout catholicz, ud kno that they do not support racism, er any kind ov "master race" or "pure race" az the nazi'z did. tell me exactly y they wood wanna help the naziz kill the jewz when their religion comez frum jewish beleifz? many "respected" charcterz ov the catholic bible were jewish. get yer factz straight b4 u start talkin shit bout other pplz religionz, even if u knew wut the fuck yer talkin bout u shood at least respect all religionz, even if u dunt agree wit em. whoever called catholicz bastardz n said they beleive in ethnic cleansing is a tru fuckin idiot. here u r, belittling a race becuz u think they belittle other racez. i juss cant stand ppl who talk shit bout otherz beleifz, especially when they dunt even got their factz straight. hopefully sumbody agreez wit me.
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Old Aug-18-2004, 11:02
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mormon is a sick religion...they believe black people were put on earth for the service of the white man...sick...sick
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who is god? lol
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killabuzz.....i totally agree
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Old Aug-21-2004, 15:25
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Talking Killabuzz 101

Killabuzz, you need a brush-up on your grammer, dude! No offense.
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Old Aug-22-2004, 09:26
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Killabuzz, you need a brush-up on your grammer, dude! No offense.
And unless you had something,
other than a snide comment to make
(partially hidden behind a "No offense" )

you should have kept your post to yourself

BTW KillaBuzz, I completely agree
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Old Aug-23-2004, 01:03
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KillaBuzz, I completely agree with you about using sex for the creation of life, only. That seems obvious though, when you really think about it. As we see in a person that is considered a holy man, there is no talk or presence of sexual desire at all. Nowadays this culture and world is so over involved with sex, it's absolutely rediculous.

Religion seems to play such a strange part in everyones life in modern times. It seems that fear is the greatest motivation for any religious practices.

Religion is a direction map to eternal life. It doesn't matter what religious belief you start off learning, if you are able to hold onto pure conciousness throughout childhood and you remain free from sexual desire, you will be one the path to enlightenment. Once elightenment is reached, it won't take long before the devine realization of nothingness. Pow! The key to eternal life. Becoming one with god.
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Old Aug-23-2004, 13:37
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jesus was the biggest hippie of all time what else can you say....
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I don't know about him being a hippie. He never taught sex. However I can tell you he could get a buzz on pretty easily. Especially when using and inhaling that godly good oil of cannabis!! Not to mention the wine...

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Killabuzz, you need a brush-up on your grammer, dude! No offense.
haha..yer a funny guy. im srry i dunt speak in proper english form, if yah dunt like it, y dunt u juss stop readin my postz? an thx fer agreein wit me on that guyz
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to this question i say yes. if god is real and he did create everything why would he create something like pot if he did not want us to use it.
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God created the platypus. He's obviously a toker.
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in my humble opinion, so many people get confused between spirituality and religion.. people belive if you dont go to church every day or whatever, then youre not faithful, and if you dont do what your religion tells you to do then youre sinning. well personalyl i think thats bullshit. i hate organized religion. its just another way for a load of people to control a hell of alot more people. i believe, if you have faith in a god, any god, then your worship that god or gods however the fuck you want, and no one can say shit. you can believe in the bible, believe in god and not have to go to church, church is bullshit. its hyopocritical. your interpritation of the bible or of gods word is your own and thats all that matters. some religions do believe that takin or using mind altering substances is a sin, but theyre excuse for drinkin is that they "use it in moderation" in other words, they dont get drunk.. i say, if you can use alcohol in moderation and not be sinnin then u can smoke up and not be sinnin. simple. next subject lol
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