i'd just like to say 'hahahahahahahahahahahah' peace

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He couldn't be against drinking because Jesus turned water into wine. I'm not really religous but it wouldnt make much sense for him to be mad at us for getting high. I bet he bakes all the time.

He made it, his fault. I'm sure he doesn't give a shit.

It is very sad to see ignorance like this in the world. Of course he made cannabis and there are many purposes for it. Also how are you so SURE he does'nt care? It does'nt make much sense for us to be ignorant of the problems and issues in the world and I know I cannot speak for all tokers, but a large percent smoke weed to forget about life. I also smoke weed, and am in the process of limiting it to respoonsible using. In my opinion maryjane helps you reach deeper levels of understanding in spiritualness, and I don't know how you can deny your destiny, for it is the destiny of all.

Why do many deny the guy in the sky?
If time spent on weed was even the same as he
maybe your situation would be key!
Just as an uneducated man is noticed quickly.
Ignorance is bliss

last bit unless anyone wants to respond--
People have to educate themselves to be smart enough to even say the things being said, MOLE, your saying your sure that its OK cuz here put it here. You know your talking about GOD who created EVERYTHING- sin happiness FREEWILL, everything harmful and good, so with that I do not see how your point is valid. Also on the issue of hell, whoever was saying that they would rather be in hell than in heaven w/mormans? Mormans will NOT be in heaven for they are a cult, just as JW's. Hell is not anything to mess with. WHY can"t people drop their frikin pride and just admit GOD is REAL? I mean look at the process of life, we have to create life to reproduce, well come on people of course we have something that created us. Any ways the prophecys are completing themselves, And even all the scientific scholors even say that the odds of creation being true is better than any theory they have. Death is inevitable, in this world, but death is only the beginning.

when you smoke up if your mood remains positive and you are having good thoughts then I think it's cool. If you are getting angry about anything or having negative thoughts then you shouldn't smoke weed.

Nobody can talk for God, dont try. You dont know what he thinks or wants. And if you are religious the only way to have some idea about what God whats us to do is read the NT.

Just because God put it on the earth doesnt make it alright to smoke. Maybe we arent using the plant for the way he wanted.

He put im gonna smoke either way. Hopefully God understands.

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"...To be peaceful without being stupid, to be interested without being compulsive, to be happy without being hysterical, smoke grass..."

" A wondrous languor... possesses itself of your spirit, and spreads itself across your faculties as a fog spreads itself in a meadow... Hashish spreads itself all over life; as it were, the magic varnish. It colours it with solemn hues and lights up its profundity." - Charles Baudelaire, 'The Poem Of Hashish.

What is this war?

i used to have this theory whenever i first started to get high that earth was god's giant pot plant.. id say, "why else do you think there is so much pot growing here? god uses earth to plant it all.. and we are just like tiny bugs that eat a bit here and there.. but dont come close to smoking much." haha.

weird.

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sometimes i feel like,
i dont have a partner.
sometimes i feel like,
my only friend
is the city i live in,
the city of angels.
lonely as i am,
together we cry.

i dont ever want to feel
like i did that day
take me to the place i love
take me all the way

Chill out with the "your ignorant" shit dude. Know one knows what god thinks...oh yeah except from all the dudes that wrote the fucking bible, how come god just stopped talking to people after mental institute's were made popular. If god did talk to someone nowaday we wouldn't believe him *cough david koresh cough.*there are so many fucking contradictions in the bible and the same sort of story has been used in many many religions for tens of thousands of years (Naoh's Ark especially.) Dude noah couldnt repopulate the entire earth with 2 of each kind of each animal because everything would be inbreed and would be distorted and gross. Atheists and religous men can never finish an argument because atheists will argue with science and religous men will just use shit like "he is an essence inside of everyone, you will meet him when you die and he will send you down to hell." Dude I was just placing a bet, if god is real and I see you in the afterlife, if I can get god to eat some brownies with me then you owe me a soda.

no one* eh im cant spell

I reckon;
Jesus was an arab looking dude and all his preists sat around fuming bales of "incense" and having really profound thoughts, rubbin oil on their foreds etc. Hotboxin the temple article in high times was great.
I read the bible cover to cover as a lad in uniting church i was brought up in (only slightly scarred and moderateley betrayed) and it scared the fuck out of me. Revelation was the weirdest thing ever. Ive never seen shit that weird on any trip.
All the blood of christ, crucify, slay the lamb etc. No wonder i ended up into death/rage/destroy/blood music.
And my mother thinks it was the drugs...

What actaully scared you? I can't understand what you are saying.

I totally agree with you about the hotboxin'.

As for Jesus tuning water into wine, that's bullshit. That is a metafore (SP?) for the fact that wherever jesus went, the people around his started feeling intoxicated, even though they had not drank alcohol. His godly power was so strong that it emminant from every cell in his body.

so god gets people fucked up.

it honestly depends on your frame of mind... If you already have a realationship with jesus and you know him in your heart, then the effect definately feels like heaven (nirvana), nothing but peace and love. However if you have not accepted jesus as your personal saviour, then it's more like fear. If you are a worshipper of demons then it will have a negative affect on you and surely you could die.

The spirit is fealt slightly at concerts and stuff... when the rockers are all doped up and singing with all their passion. The croud surely can feel the effects. Much like Elvis, he had some spirit in him.

Have you seen any of those big religious concerts where people are going crazy for jesus... shaking and shit, like an epileptic attack... I've seen that. Those people are strange.

hahah no shit dude. I want to go to one of those and crowd surf.

i hate that kinda shit

come on man, preach ur shit however much u want, but i dont like being told im going to die and im a worshipper of demons just coz i dont believe the same as u

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I'm not saying if you worship demons you are going to die, in general. I say that if you wotship demons and you happen to bump into Jesus on the corner, and he's buzzin' with the holy spirit of fire, then when you feel it you will not be able to handle it and you will die.

Like the only way you can handle a full flooding of the holy spirit is if you know god, and recognized that he is all, then it would just be a MAJOR life changing event for you.

Do I make more sense... I don't know if the person would really die... To be honest, most people are so confussed about god that they might even say they worship demons, but when it's all undressed and you know what's it their heart... they have deep down really loved god all that time and didn't really realize it. Meaning I'd say most of the so called demon worshipers are just lying to themselves and the world about what they really honestly and truely believe.

Back to the topis of the post... I know that God wants you to do whatever it takes for you to love him, period.

Many times, the problems and sin of this world cloud and seperate people from realizing gods grace. I say to you that if he is on your side, you can handle anything in life.

I would like to say that if you want to see the truth, you will, in your heart and once you find it, it will bind itself to you. I'm not saying what truth you have to look for, just what I found, when I searched.

We are born destined to discover the truth. However the lies of "satan" and his hold on society blinds use as we enter maturity. We as children of god as faced with anger and all the other sins against god as soon as we enter the world. Children are so much more in touch with god's true reality. Adults that stay from God are so confussed about who they really are and there purpose in live. In God we all find purpose. Personally, many people will never connect fully with god again until death. Those who loose their way early in life will often never find it again. The only way we can ensure the promise of a heavenly future is the raise children as the image of god, just as the bible discribes.

If I ever have a son in life it would be best to think of the child as having God's will and strength right outta the gate. Human conditioning and the ignorance of the public still condon physical punishment and many parent use intense anger to get their kids to listen to them. When you use anger to talk to God, do you think he is listening? No... He responds through love only.

I may have gotten off topic, but I'm just letting it flow.

That sucks... I wanted to make some revisions to my last post and I wasn't allowed. That's just stupid.

i prefer to think of "the way of god" as social engineering, which doesnt affect kids until they grow up, but is imprinted in their minds since they can walk and talk... but hey, whatdoiknow

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Any God you could believe in gave us free will, and pot. The choice is ours to make. Any choice can yield good or bad, it's the way we deal with it that's the test. So smoke pot, expand your mind, and spread peace, and know when not to smoke. But don't smoke pot all the time to the exclusion of other mind-expanding experiences, and sit around wasting your life. cos i think that would probably piss any God off.
peace