Thread: hanging yourself while high?

It's probably only morons who haven't contemplated suicide.


And some very bright, talented, and indeed, courageous people have, unfortunately, succumbed to the urge that comes from the deep pain and utter despair of true clinical depression.


Now, I will say this. Someone who has to kill their family and/or friends in order to get up the "courage" to kill themselves is pretty cowardly. But these are the people who keep it so bottled up, who can't even talk about it, lest someone call them a coward. Indeed, they probably ridicule others for expressing the weakness they hide.

1 thing...listen to Bob Marley's three little birds smoke weed and never will you want to kill yourself...simple no?? and of course thinking that everything as good and bad sides just concentrate on the good side

wow to all the negative replies to what i said, you seem to think that i would rather die and destroy MORE lives than live in perpetual misery. no, im not selfish like that, if my death is going to ruin a minimum of 3 other lives, then i'll only be even MORE miserable in the afterlife! i cant get out of this misery no matter what i do, FUCK the attention people think i am seeking, i would be a FUCK of a lot happier without it!

especcially considering itls almsot ALL blatent insults to my presumed "pseudo-intellect".


and a little parting word to all you anti-death retards: death is not the end, it's no big deal, if you're so worried about death, you'd be joining PETA and attacking KFC chains.


but OH WAIT, HUMAN death is OOOOHHHH SUCH A BAD THING! why? can you give me one REAL reason that death is truly such a bad thing?

the feeling of others is a given, people just cant help but feel sorrow when someone dies (i never understood this), but other than that, there's no reason that death should be attacked like this!

ignorance of the other half of life... that's the only thing i can chalk this up to!

The way I see it is like this. If I kill myself i'll never know if my life could get better or not. I'm too curious not to find out.

Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf

but OH WAIT, HUMAN death is OOOOHHHH SUCH A BAD THING! why? can you give me one REAL reason that death is truly such a bad thing?

the feeling of others is a given, people just cant help but feel sorrow when someone dies (i never understood this), but other than that, there's no reason that death should be attacked like this!

ignorance of the other half of life... that's the only thing i can chalk this up to!

People have emotional attachment to eachother. Therefore we care about human deaths. Humans aren't alone in being creatures that feel pain when their type dies. Do you think that dogs and cats would be apathetic towards a friend of theres being killed? I as a human being naturally feel sorrow when I hear of other humans dying.

And yes we are ignorant of the after-life, as are you. That is a good damned reason to not go searching for the after-life in my eyes. I doubt there is a life after this life and I am ignorant of what will come after death. This is a good enough reason for me to not wanna toy with death, and to advise others against suicide.

Well SSW, if there is more then it would be fine but if their isn't more after life then killing yourself is a pretty dumb thing to do. Well Killing youself is dumb even if their is more after life. How do you expect to go on in death if you couldn't handle life?

emotional attatchment is an illogical reason to mourn the physical body's death. the mnind lives on, and if your mourn, obviousely you dont understand that.


the body is not the person you loved, why does their body matter so much to you that you must mourn when they leave hell?


yes, this is hell. hell on earth.


i am HAPPY for those that leave! you dont think they arent aware of your mourning them, and they FEEL YOUR PAIN!!! so why make them feel so badly that they had left?!?

please, for the sake of the deceaced, be happy for them and praise their parting.



now try to understand my position here...

you would rather blindly enter the afterlife and be bombarded with truths you might not be ready for? or do you want at least a little insight of what to expect?


and you're right, no one can truly know anything about the afterlife, because no two people are alike, your afterlife might be completely different from mine, but they all share one common thing, the truth. you cannot die and not know all, and humans are so ignorant and stupid that most of the time, they cant HANDLE the afterlife...


SOME OF US are actually COWERING on earth, because we cant handle the afterlife, some of us arent merely reincarnated, and trying to learn our lesson(s). it's terribly sad, because eventually, the Earth herself will fight back...


it just keeps getting harder, doesnt it?

Originally Posted by MudFu

Well SSW, if there is more then it would be fine but if their isn't more after life then killing yourself is a pretty dumb thing to do. Well Killing youself is dumb even if their is more after life. How do you expect to go on in death if you couldn't handle life?

exactly. who are you telling? :P

Aahhh.... Well I suppose that we both have very different beliefs stoner shadow wolf. In fact so different that when we both talk about this subject, we aren't really talking about the same things. I have a belief that there is no god, no spirit, and no after-life. My thinking is that humans are just some animal and life form and we are the brain. That is why I mourn the physical body. All I know of is the physical body, and it is the memories of the physical body moving that make it difficult. What other image do I have to remember a person by other than what they physically were.

I accept your stance on the afterlife, after all your religious beliefs are opposite mine on the after-life so we should have opposite opinions on topics surrounding death.

what is ur religions by the way?

you must anaylize thoight, and the act of thinking...
meditate and calm the mind as well...

quantum physics are also an indication that there is not only the body and brain making up what you are...


considering that your body is composed of trillions upon trillions upon trillions of tiny life forms that are controlled by electrical impulses from the brain... but... how can a brain work? i mean... it simply cannot be autonomous! if what you say is true, then we do not trully think for ourselves, we do not actually have our own free will, it is an automated function of the brain... i cant really accept that one lol



and i have no religion, i abhore religion, i believe fully in personal spirituality. meditation is a better preacher than any religion could ever have.

Ummm, can you guys maybe get back onto the topic of the dude who actually seemed like they wanted to kill themself?

haha yes, good idea... i think i've already contributed enough to have him look at his life a little different and weigh the consequences before he tries anythying.


as long as he takes everything into consideration before he ends his life, i cannot object.

Ummm, can you guys maybe get back onto the topic of the dude who actually seemed like they wanted to kill themself?

I don't think we really jumped off the topic to much. We still are talking about suicide.

I morns for the physical body because it means I am unable to see, meet and talk with this person again in my lifetime. If the mind lives on, IF, I still can not make any connection to it and being able to communicate with the person. When the person dies they live on in memory but sometimes memory is not enough. Lol on that, I like you to tell my cousin your ideas on morning. She might kill you with her bear hands. She still can not fully get over her mothers death. If you can handle someone so close to you dieing without so much as a sad thought of not seeing them then good for you, not how I would want to live. To me and my cousin, morning is a sigh of respect and it shows how much you loved and will miss the person.

no you dont understand, you WILL see them again, just not in this life, not in this body, well maybe you will see them again in a dream, but you will never see their body again, they are not gone, stop shutting them out as if they were.


you can visit their grave if it makes you feel more connected; do what you must to get over the fact that their mind and body have parted.

you wont do it

Well, I did say I wouldn't see them in my lifetime... Anyways, It's only natural to feel some kidda sarrow when a loved one goes (death or otherwise).

well stoner wolf, it appears that you are really attacking those that have no belief in the afterlife. You fail to respect are belief in this and you don't really understand what we are talking about because of this.

so listen: not everyone has your strange viewpoints and belief in the afterlife. and stop preaching saying that what you think is the truth. Even if you strongly believe it, we don't and we will not accept this as the truth, or even as a reasonable response to what we are typing.

I was having similar thoughts to Openmind the other day: what is it about dying that's inherently wrong? I'm not posting to be a dick, I'd like a genuine answer to the question.

And in my opinion, claiming 'the grief it'll cause your family/friends is enough to make it immoral' is bunk- it should be your decision to die if you want to do it, and surely the sadness it causes others is easily outweighed by the sadness you're already feeling (or at least i'd assume so if you're feeling tormented enough to overcome the instinct to survive).

While you can enjoy life, for every up there seems to be a down making living seem more 'neutral' than anything 'good'. Why would being dead be any better or worse? Dying seems like just another stage to go through in life.

I believe that the main thing keeping me alive at the moment is the survival instinct we all have. The only thing that makes people shocked that Openmind wants to die is this subconcious-but irrational-feeling that death is a terrible thing. The only reason we have this instinct is evolution, which doesn't make the instinct a 'good' thing in itself, it's just the logical way to be if we want to reproduce (people without the instinct would happily go for a painless death).


Beyond that, my advice for you (Openmind) is to take out 10 minutes of your time to give this
a look. It's NOT like other preachy ideologies that tell you what is evil and good- it's completely hedonistic (built around pleasure rather than worship) and is totally built on logic. Just give it a glance before you make any final decisions

ur ideas aren't built on logic. The quest to live and survive is the logical idea. It's illogical to kill yourself claiming that it is just part of nature. Do you see animals killing themselves? It's illogical to kill yourself because you believe in an after-life. Taking chances with pure ignorance is not logical.

There is one good reason not to kill yourself...and no it's not herb but you can have all the herb you want with this reason.......
The best reason ever not to kill yourself, (unless in prison forever)......IS that instead......you should really just do WHATEVER YOU WANT...and then if you die while doing it or after doing it then well shit, and don't hurt anyone else for fucks sake.....but hey if your going to die and the reason you want to die is the Cycle that i understand sooooo well
so fuck it just do what you want.....tell everyone to fuck offf...literally.....walk down the road and keep going till you get somewhere...hell walk till you fall over and die...that's not suicide...that is will which i think the pro-suicide desire so much.......
If you have the will to kill yourself then you have the will to do anything that you damn well want.....balls works both ways motherfuckers aye aye aye

So if your going to kill yourself to be in control of the dregs then don't you want to do shit before you die and at least be doing something you want to be doing when you do die.......as for life........read shit about m-theory and new physics shit and you will now that no one knows anything and it will all be a big fuckin surprise anyway which is EXACTLY why i say fuck it!!! JUST DO WHAT YOU WANT !!!!(except for kill yourself)_and goto CaptainPappyLand.com and maybe you will have something to laugh about.
hell that theory is the reason "Captain Pappy" exists so blam blam blam

Originally Posted by sugarmagnolia

ur ideas aren't built on logic. The quest to live and survive is the logical idea. It's illogical to kill yourself claiming that it is just part of nature. Do you see animals killing themselves? It's illogical to kill yourself because you believe in an after-life. Taking chances with pure ignorance is not logical.

That's because if there were ever animals who did that, they'd be dead by now so we wouldn't see them around- it's called evolution. The only reason other creatures don't do it is because if those that didn't would have died and would not reproduce- just because we've evolved not to doesn't make it 'wrong' or 'immoral', it just proves it a bad path to take if you want to continue your species. You haven't given me any real reasons why it's wrong, just connotations. Can anyone give a fact (rather than opinion) to prove to me why dying is wrong?

Oh, and I never claimed it was a 'natural' thing to do, I just stated that in the long-term there's no reason to consider it an immoral thing to do; there's no actual reason for it being considered a bad thing, we're just shocked by the idea.

Originally Posted by SativaTrip

JUST DO WHAT YOU WANT !!!!(except for kill yourself)

But what if you WANT to kill yourself? Why would that actually be a bad thing? Aren't you contradicting the idea of hedonism by denying suicidal people the right to do exactly what they want?

Originally Posted by sugarmagnolia

well stoner wolf, it appears that you are really attacking those that have no belief in the afterlife. You fail to respect are belief in this and you don't really understand what we are talking about because of this.

so listen: not everyone has your strange viewpoints and belief in the afterlife. and stop preaching saying that what you think is the truth. Even if you strongly believe it, we don't and we will not accept this as the truth, or even as a reasonable response to what we are typing.

look, i know no one can just simply accept what i say, and that's exactly why i am trying to hammer it in, because if i dont, you jsut get to put up with ten times worse than me when you die!


im trying to ease you into reality.


but you fight it, you'll fight it now, you'll fight it when your body dies, and the mental stress is just not worth fighting this!

but you're right, i haven't been very respectful of your beliefs, primarily because no one is very respectful to the real truth, the truth i can ee, the truth i wish i was blind to like the rest of you! honnestly, please dont take that as insulting... i know it is...

but yeh... i guess the only way i can prove it is for you to die

Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf

look, i know no one can just simply accept what i say, and that's exactly why i am trying to hammer it in, because if i dont, you jsut get to put up with ten times worse than me when you die!


im trying to ease you into reality.


but you fight it, you'll fight it now, you'll fight it when your body dies, and the mental stress is just not worth fighting this!

but you're right, i haven't been very respectful of your beliefs, primarily because no one is very respectful to the real truth, the truth i can ee, the truth i wish i was blind to like the rest of you! honnestly, please dont take that as insulting... i know it is...

but yeh... i guess the only way i can prove it is for you to die

Wow...way to prove sugar right...you really can't see past your ideas...weren't you the same person who tells others to open your mind and see the truth. If you are unable to see our truths then you have no right to say that. You have stong faith in what you say but it still may not be true. I choose to take in what I heard and make my mind up after. Keep an open mind and see what makes sence to me. Your "theory" has some interesting ideas to it but to me you just seem like a person who truly fears the idea of death so you have decided that death is a new form of life.

well, we haven't heard from openmind in a while, but I've seen my fair share of people in forums saying "fuck you all I'm gonna kill myself now!" and coming on 2 months later pretending it never happened, so who really knows.