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Old Oct-19-2006, 17:42
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man this is really a mind boggling topic ever since ive read this thread i keep thinking we dont really have souls but then i think thats impossible because i know im here now. and now mr devious has to belive that we fade into the ground well im not beliving anything until it happens.

i kind of suspect that reincarnation is the only answer
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Old Oct-19-2006, 17:59
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"we" don't have to be anywhere actually. So far as we know, the human condition is nothing but a collection of billions of physical and mental processes. When the person dies, those processes all break down and the intricate system falls apart, and "we" fall apart into the decaying matter with everything else in existence. Just as if we took a car apart and returned all it's components back to the earth to the elemental level, the car would no longer exist.

For your information, we are all eternal beings. Just because your body breaks down doesn't mean you don't continue. Why do you think sleeping represents death? And by the way, cars don't have souls. Do cars dream?
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For your information, we are all eternal beings. Just because your body breaks down doesn't mean you don't continue. Why do you think sleeping represents death? And by the way, cars don't have souls. Do cars dream?
yes, in fact my moms cadillac told me of this dream he had last night about driving down the freeway racing with some other cars and having a fun time
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Old Oct-19-2006, 19:55
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i didnt win any race and he didnt know
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Old Oct-19-2006, 22:16
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God is a concept that we, the most advanced animals on this planet, have conjured up to help us accept the fact that we are far too early in our development to even understand the most fundamental things about our universe.

I just wrote that for the fun of the answering the question. We cannot comprehend the truth yet. And, at our current level of knowledge, we cannot know if there is or is not a god. And there is no proof for either argument. Therefore I believe that the only reasonable answer to the question of whether there is a god or not is....maybe. Agnosticism is the only thing that seems to make sense to me.
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Old Oct-19-2006, 22:26
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God was created about the time we evolved with the ability to form abstractions
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God can't exist because if he/she did it would be one big contradiction.

I mean he/she knows every decision we will make in our lives right?... Then why does he/she claim to let us decide which route we will take in life? Obviously it is a lie because our decisions would have already been made if he/she knew them all already.
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well you might be right but there is no way for anyone to know what happens for sure but what i do know is i am myself as a soul that exists now but what troubles my mind is i have no idea what will happen to my soul when i die even if we disappear forever we still have to be somewhere right?? <<you cannot answer that question only god himself can do that but it doesnt matter because he does not exist in our lives.
This is a difficult Idea for a lot of people, (just death in general) This is what Socrates said on the night before his death, a friend of his came to visit him in “jail” and offered to break him out. He was on trail basically for practicing philosophy.

He said, (not a quote as it was in Latin, just the jist)

When I die I see two options,
The first is that I enter an endless sleep without dreams
The second is that some part of me will continue on with other dead people (heaven)
Neither of these are undesirable
So why should I fear death

And the next day he was put to death.

Remember he died 400 years before Christ and his idea of the after life is so similar…
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God doesn't exist because no being of divinity would create other beings just to kill them and punish them in hell for eternity for the choices that he made for them.

Life and death are both illusions. Everything is just energy. When we die, our energy just becomes something else.
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god does not exsist because really, no religion makes enough sense to prove this. most religions that have to do with a god are saying there is some spirit that just created everything, out of nothing at all. as if this entire universe is controlled by a person. and heaven and hell, i dont think ur spirit goes anywhere or anything like that. ur dead, your dead and its the end of you. if there was a heaven or a hell, it would be just a state of mind when you pass away, and thats even if u have a state of mind. i honestly think humans are not the superior race, on earth maybe, but i highly doubt we are the only planet out of the entire universe to ahve life. i have more to say.. im trying to cut it short tho. sorry for havin more than a sentence.. im pretty fucekd up and i would have just suffered for the next 3 hours because i held back my main points.. lol
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Old Oct-22-2006, 04:10
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Take a look at the world and theres your answer. god dose not exsist
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Old Oct-23-2006, 22:15
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Your brain is God.
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Old Oct-23-2006, 22:25
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God DOES exist because our universe has walls.
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Wrong thread dude.
And walls are just what the human mind can identity or percieve.
Yes, our universe "stops" in some manner of physical dimension/perspective, but it continues in other ways. Ways we cannot percieve as of this moment.
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Regardless that doesn’t constitute god
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Regardless that doesn’t constitute god
I was gonna add that...
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this is easy

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man this is really a mind boggling topic ever since ive read this thread i keep thinking we dont really have souls but then i think thats impossible because i know im here now. and now mr devious has to belive that we fade into the ground well im not beliving anything until it happens.

i kind of suspect that reincarnation is the only answer
you are getting the "mind" mixed up with soul. we have consciences but that doesn’t mean we have souls. I dont believe we have a soul in the Christian sense, I might be persuaded to believe in a soul in another sense.

the argument that we have souls which would be energy
and this soul cannot just die when our bodies die because energy cannot "die"
so it must go somewhere, ie heaven

my biggest problem with this is that souls are created for each human. following the above logic they must come from somewhere. So i think this also supports reincarnation rather than heaven.
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Old Oct-25-2006, 00:50
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God does not exist, because He trancends existance.

Sorry to break the chain, but I feel completely the opposite of how you guys view the world. It's all gravy, though. We're all human, and I respect each and every one of you all the same.
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i like the first part, but i'm not so sure about the second. trancending eh
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Just like all the research most of us have done to grow our plants, most commenting on this topic should research this subject just as much. Your forgetting were on enemy grounds, satan was sent here. For many generations we have been inbred w/ sin and deception. Leading us to where we are today. Why else was there a predicted end of days in revelation

Bless all of you, we will all meet our maker, or burn in the lake of fire, Your belief decides which one is for you.
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Just like all the research most of us have done to grow our plants, most commenting on this topic should research this subject just as much. Your forgetting were on enemy grounds, satan was sent here. For many generations we have been inbred w/ sin and deception. Leading us to where we are today. Why else was there a predicted end of days in revelation

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