A Grower's Code of Ethics... Love, Stinky

Discussion in 'Growing Information' started by stinkyattic, Jan 26, 2007.

  1. Could you let us know a little more about ethical booby trapping of outdoor grows?
     
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  2. Shovelhandle

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    Crystal, these folks are not active in the forum at this time. Your recent thread covers the question well. Let's get a bump on that one and see what the present crop of members feel about the booby trapping.
     
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  3. catbuds

    catbuds Banned

    I think it depends on the circumstances. Out in the wide open country, acres of woods, places where people might innocently be hiking or camping. Hell no! Others have a right to be there too. But then again, lets take my property for example. Long & narrow, narrow bordering the road. Back bordering a field with 2 ponds. 7/10 of an acre....FENCED IN on three sides, only open on road frontage. POSTED. Clearly private property with tresspassers NOT welcome. I can't keep a lawn mower, tiller, garden tools & my plants are usually stolen. They even stole my tv antenna! Its always been bad for thieft, but since they put a new scrap yard in 3 miles from me, I can't keep anything made out of metal! House sits close to the road. Being so narrow, you're pretty darned close to the house when you sneak into the back yard. NOBODY goes to the back of my house but thieves. I'm considering booby traps. Not deadly ones. Just twine or wires that will trip them with a bunch of cans or stuff to make a lot of noise when they get tangled up in the shit. Nobody hates a thief as much as me. Never had honest people sneak into the back yard & probably never will. I don't live in town, I live way out in the boonies. So if a thief breaks his leg in my back yard, I'll have no remorse, I'll just yell out my door, 'hey Billy & Gary! Who do you want me to call, John (their father) or the cops?' They're 47 & 50, never had jobs except stealing & freeload off their elderly father. Billys in rehab, Garys in jail..... but they'll be back.
    -- So when used properly, booby traps can be your friend! :) :) :)
     
  4. catbuds

    catbuds Banned

    I know I just posted, but..... if you plant your grow on gov property, parks or other public areas, & you booby trap it & someone gets hurt, don't you think that just might make the cops search the area & find your grow for sure? Kinda defeates the purpose, don't cha think? Food for thought.
     
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  5. SamLyle

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    For private properties, Is it not enough to just post "Private Property, No Trespassing"?

    I once saw a warning on the fence I think it was also in the internet and it says: "Warning:private Property. Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again"
    Had a hearty laugh cos I thought it was a joke of sorts. But if it wasn't? Kinda scary indeed.
     
  6. SamLyle

    SamLyle Registered+

    For private properties, Is it not enough to just post "Private Property, No Trespassing"?

    I once saw a warning on the fence I think it was also in the internet and it says: "Warning:private Property. Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again"
    Had a hearty laugh cos I thought it was a joke of sorts. But if it wasn't? Kinda scary indeed.
     
  7. catbuds

    catbuds Banned

    When it obviously someone's fenced in back yard, you would think a posted sign would be enough, & it SHOULD BE. But... in this case its 2 brothers, one 50 & the other 47-48 who don't work, they steal & freeload & live off their elderly father. Years ago they hung in my group & on payday I'd party everybody at my expense. When I was crushed in an accident becoming disabled, & now living on a sm diability check, I can't afford to party anyone at my expense, not even myself. So since they can't get freebies from me anymore, that makes me the enemy. When caught red handed & confronted, their reply was, I'm a greedy bitch for not 'sharing the wealth', I deserve everything they've done to me, & they said 'what are you gonna do, call the cops, whip our ass?' (along with some other nasty name calling) & they spit on me & threw their beer in my face. Couldnt call the cops, they were taking my plants along with some other personal property. Its a game to them & they call it 'beat the bitch'. Couldn't whip their asses, they're healthy & younger than me, I'm a 60 yr old crippled woman with a cane. They're over 6' & I'm 5'2", so ass whipping is a no go there. So if they get out jail & rehab before I get my harvest in next coming fall, & they get harmed in one of my non-lethal booby traps...... well, they DID say I deserved everything they did to me.....
    -- They ARE the only ones going into my fenced in back yard uninvited (& under the cover of night). Like I've said before. Booby traps in public accessible places are inhumane, unethical, & an all around bad thing. Mine are designed to make a LOT of noise, but a leg or ankle could be broken/sprained getting entangled in the trip wire or cord that activates all the noise......& under these circumstances, I would feel no remorse.
     
  8. thenewgrow

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    im sorry to read this catbuds :( i fell for you its hard when ppl run you over like that. i try almost the same as you, 1 day 3 of my best friends called me up and said they were close by and asked if I had a little smoke they could get. and I said yes definitely , 3 hours later a car up in the driveway and I go out and locks up because I could see they were the ones who came out of the car and walked into the living room again 3 minutes later I hear one strange noise from the next room and I took my baseball bat in his hand and walked slowly into the other room and there they stand with all my smoke and smashed my window and walked into the road and steal my smoke I screamed at my house mate that we had burglary. and my 3 "friends" attacked me I broke his arm on one of them and after I do not remember much that was one of them struck me with something hard from behind, and I went out like a light , I woke up almost an hour later on the floor inside the room , and my roommate did stand like a boss and hate the 3 guys in the corner. He stood and aimed at them with a gun , i was just like wtf just happend . and he was like thes guys did knock you out bro. and i was looking at thos fools and thinking "wtf" my 3 bedst friends just was trying to steal from me. my room mate was just like lets tire them up 1 after 1 and take 1 at the time to the room next dore and beat the crap out of them. i did say lets tire them up and take them for a ride in their car. and we was driving to my older brother he lives in the woods. when i told him who was trying to roob me. he was freaking out becors i have know them all my life. and they was shitting in their pants it was starting to get dark and we was holding them on the back seat of their own car. they did know when i was driving to my brother it was bad for them. they knew something was wrong. when I had driven them out to my brother. my brother has always been my and their back when we took the city and such.

    we let them hand in the car for about 5 hours tied up
    and then had a decent game beating. and then we drove out of nowhere and droped themself of.
    the only thing they learn from is a big beat down. i have never seen them again. and no police reports.

    trust me i know how you fell
     
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  9. catbuds

    catbuds Banned

    I think thieves deserve what ever happens to them. But I still think its a shame when innocent people get caught up in it by accident. I think the laws & society are too lenient on thieves, especially in districts who have no self defence laws. Around here, if somebody jumps you & you fight back, you're both charged with assault. Our local laws don't see it as you defending yourself, you're as guilty as the person who attacked you. Only one thing will make you exempt..... it has to be obvious to the observers eye that you are physically disabled. Between this & the leniency on thieft, our local laws really do protect the criminals.
    -- I thought these asses were my friends for years. Then my Dad died. He left me the house, (needing repairs), & through no fault of his own, a bunch of bills. Both he & my mom had long lingering illnesses before their deaths, so the bills piled up. A few days after the funeral, here come the brothers saying 'share the wealth'. I'm like, 'what wealth?' They say, come on man, we know he left you some money. Ah, the money in the bank goes toward the hospital bills & ballance on the funeral. The only money flowing around here flows out of my pocket & into the hospital, you know, the ballance of the bills. A few days later I came home from work & found I'd been robbed. The house was nearly emptied, EVERYTHING out of my grow room, plants, lights, fans & ALL. Since the grow was gone, I called the cops. They left a crow bar & a couple beer cans behind with their prints on them & all over my bedroom & got three years for 'day time burglary'. Long story I know, but now its all out war with them. They're still dealing out 'pay backs' for me sending them to jail. All I got out of that was the reputation of a 'snitch', so now I can't even buy herb!
     
  10. thenewgrow

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    thos ppl are to mutch. wtf cant you buy your herb ? becors they roob you. what a shitty dealer. if he cant see you did what you had to do. then he aint the time worh. i hope you can grow your own meds, what you did was not what a "snitch" do. a "snitch" is some one who get cought and take other with him in jail. then he get reduced time.
    what you did was only to get your stuff back and your property, i think what you did was thumbs up:thumbsup: !!

    i would have payed some big ppl to drive out to this 2 fools and let them know who is the boss you know what i mean :) let this big guys do what they want to do with them ^^ throw them around in their own home ^^"

    i did this for a friend for some years back i was like 16 and 1 of my friends was a dealer and 2 guys was behind is payment they was just running from the bill. and i got an offer i couldent refuse, so we did take the hoodies on and did go in that house with 2 baseball bat's, that was crazy. i got scared in that house my friend did lose control at them. and i was starting to say " dude you are gona kill them " stop stop stop dude. stop man . and i needed to say if you aint gona stop now im out and i wont see you again man. then he was like man they owe me allot. "allot was 20 k" and i was like ok but you dont get your money if you kill them man. and today he is sitting in jail he got 4 years for it. he dident "snitch" me. the 2 guys dident know me so they dident get me. he was 1 of my bedst friends. and i learned from him that dont ever let ppl fuck you over. that was 1 of the bedst things i have learned. ps. i dream about this almost every day, it wakes me covered in sweat

    you can allways find ppl who wona do the dirty job for you if you just pay the right price. and thos ppl know how to let them know that if they come fuck with you they will get fucked harder then you, i hope you know what i mean :cool:

    popo dont do shiit for ppl in my contry only if its like over 10k $ worth of items that got stolen.
     
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  11. catbuds

    catbuds Banned

    Yeah, but the brothers started the rumor, & in their 'telling', all they did was take what was 'rightfully' theirs. They always took our little group motto of 'share & share alike' way too far. They twisted it to mean share with them, or they take what they want. Never any mention of them sharing in return. But rumors grow & morph, & 20 yrs later, the rumor mill says I stole their shit & when they tried to take it back, I had them busted for breaking & entering. So everything I've ever tried to do to make them leave me alone has blown up in my face.
     
  12. thenewgrow

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    dont you know some big guys you always can call if it goes wrong and they come to your home. you need to find some one you can call always if they come back.
    some one you know that can give a good beat down. and then tell him that you will offer him cash or something if you call and need help fast. just to protect your self.

    i have 2 numbers i can call day and night if something goes wrong or someone roob's me
     
  13. catbuds

    catbuds Banned

    You know, this thread is about the evil of booby traps, & how the innocent can end up in the wrong place at the wrong time. Even tho mine aren't lethal & intended as really loud noise makers, because someone COULD sprain an ankle or break a leg, I had to think it over for several years before I decided to go ahead. For now, they're only in my garage where the camper is that I live in, & the trip wire is only hooked up 10:pm-10:am, but after spring, they will be alover my back yard. But first, a friend made me a rig from an old motion detector light that turns on a cd player rigged to loop (play & rewind) & it plays a BIG pissed off dog barking & growling, that's the first thing that gets triggered when you sneak into my back yard late at night. While I don't agree with lethal/harmful booby traps, under some circumstances (like private property), I CAN understand where they are coming from. Thieves make EVERYONE pay the price for thier crimes.:(
     
  14. catbuds

    catbuds Banned

    The only ones I know like that are friends of the brothers & in their back pockets. I'm broke & in the country. No one else like that to be found around here. I just deal the best I can & hope to out live them. Rumor has it that their father has a court order that prevents them from returning to his property when they are released. Time will tell.
     
  15. thenewgrow

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    i know you think they will come back to you.
    and if you feel scared for them to come back, then you need to get a gun and have it in your bed table :) just for protection, if my roommate dident have that gun that day i dont know how i was ending up that day. i have a big knife in my room today and a baseball bat it get me to feel save at night. :) you have to do what you need to do for feel save you know :) it is important to feel safe in her own home my advice is buy a gun and similar to the one place that no one knows but you can quickly get insipid in it if --peace-- :thumbsup:
     
  16. tlranger

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    What or who is keeping you there. I'll say fool me once, but fool me twice. I always try to think I learned something.
     
  17. thenewgrow

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    i would never move just becors of 2 fools. then rather get a gun and feel save. and if they come you just pull the gun and say get the hell of my property now, or im gona shot you :) you know ppl dont say no i wont get of your property when you pull the gun . and if they say that they wont. then just shot them in the leg and call the coops
     

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