Cool , I'll make sure to check those out! OK, I understand. Knowing this, I will probably only want to attempt Zamaldelica or Malawi once I can have a seriously tall grow space - and I thought 5 feet was tall! Interesting, I'll have to give it a try at some point! Also it would be fascinating to know chemical differences between cob cure and jarring! I'll be sure to check out your posts to see if you ever do it. Thanks for all your help! It's great to get advice from an experienced grower, I really appreciate your help. Thanks again!