Discussion in 'Hydroponics' started by Esaron, Dec 17, 2007.

  1. Esaron

    Esaron Registered+

    Hello, just joined the site cuz I had some problems with my last grow.

    So everything went great up until harvest. I was growing in soil (just recently switched to my own hydro setup) and I harvested, yay. Started drying and I waited until the outside was a lil crispy and the stem audibly snapped. The drying part seemed to go fine. Then I started curing... I didn't start in bags, which Ive learned I should have, I just started with a jar. Everytime I opened the jar, it smelled rancid. I tried drying more, and there were absolutely no signs of mold. So I kept this up for about a month, opening the jar a few times a day for a few minutes, and the smell never got better. It just smelled like compost. I eventually gave up and just smoked the shit after I let it sit out for a while, but I don't know what I did wrong. I followed all the instructions that I could find.

    Does anyone know what might have caused this? (at first I thought i didn't dry well enough, but I dried em pretty damn well)
  2. Big len

    Big len Registered+

    I,m not a expert but did you flush your plants before harvest, it could possibly be coming from chemicals you used during growth and flower.
  3. socialistpete

    socialistpete Registered+

    This def could be the smell, but I had a sativa strain that had a real bad smell to it but it was real potent so who cares. And another thing I never cure using bags first just go right to jars when there dry enough. After a few harvests you'll know when the right time is to throw those buds in the jar.
  4. dejayou30

    dejayou30 Registered+

    I put some over-nuted plants that I killed at 4.5 weeks into flower in a jar and every time I opened it, it smelled like a butt. If you didn't flush, this might be where your smell comes from. Like someone said up there, it doesn't matter what it smells like if it smokes nicely.
  5. Bongojaz

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    if you didn't trim them properly you may have gotten that "yard clippings" smell. i've cure a couple times w/o a flush and had no probs. i go right into jars after the hang too. some strains can be smelly.
  6. Esaron

    Esaron Registered+

    hmmm... thanks guys, now that you mention it, i didn't flush... ill make sure to this time
  7. genevabeg

    genevabeg Registered+

    I think its more in the cure. I would let more moisture off before jarring...And trim close to get rid of as much chlorophyll as possible
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  8. dre8791

    dre8791 Registered

    Nothing like jars.
  9. Weezard

    Weezard Registered+

    Enough with the bro-science!
    "Flushing" is a silly waste of time.
    It makes no difference in taste, smell, or cure
    It pays to read up on the actual science.

    80% of the fertilizer use is also wasted money and time.
    With good soil, it simply is not necessary, or useful.

    Curing is all about water content.
    Hang dry until the main stem bends/folds, but does not snap.
    If the main stem snaps, it is already too dry to cure.
    At under 54% moisture curing is no longer an option, and re-wetting will not help.
    And, if you jar buds at >70% moisture they will rot.

    So, that's the acceptable range. 54% - 70%.
    Dry your branches as slowly as you can. No fans, no dehumidifier.
    Just hang 'em in a dark place with reasonable ventilation.
    To test, hold a nug and spin the stem back ad forth. If the nug snaps off, it's time to jar.
    If it "pulls a string", it's still too moist.

    Now comes the important part.
    Controlling moisture for a good cure.
    I place a humidity meter in each jar to track the actual condition.
    (Tried guessing, was not successful.)
    I also keep one or two meters outside the jars so I know WHEN to "burp" the jars.
    If the ambient RH is >70% I wait.

    When it drops to a reasonable percentage I adjust the burp time to the difference between inside and outside moisture.

    Burping is not all about moisture, it also allows gas exchange.
    Curing weed produces CO2 and ethylene gas..
    If the Ethylene accumulates it speed up curing and we want as slow a cure as we can get.

    Once the buds turn golden, Ethylene production slows but CO2 still gets produces by slow decarboxylization of the acid forms of the cannabinoids.
    That's a good thing. We can put the jars in storage then for months with very little oxidation.
    Doing this produces very mellow, fragrant, and tasty meds, even after years of storage.

    I used to use Caliber II - III meters but they lose calibration over time.
    Now I use Accurite meters. They are small, cheap, and reliable so far.

    Happy curing.
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