Easy way for making hash oil

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  1. Coelho

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    LOLOLOL!!! :S2:
    Thats one of the reasons why i never drink... :Rasta:

    Well... while im far away from usa, there is gold prospection here also... so, thanks for the info! :thumbsup:

    It wouldnt work, because the hash oil is completly dissolved in the liquid... if i put it in the paper and freeze it, the acetone would never evaporate, and all i would get is a paper soaked in green acetone.
    Im almost sure what youre talking about could be done with hash... but hash is not hash oil... they are very different things... only the name is similar.
     
  2. MotleyCrue0226

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    would anyone here be willing to guarantee there would be no foul effects due to acitone? also the medical alcohol is dangerous if ingested. in other words after long evaporation what would be left that would be dangerous to our health? i can see there are quite a few skeptics due to the fact acitone alone is prob lethal.
     
  3. Coelho

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    Well... the acetone itself should evaporate completly, as it has a very low boiling point (36C). What could remain is the not-so-volatile impurities of it, which depends on the brand of the acetone you get.
    The acetone i use here is actually a mixture of alcohol and acetone, but as the alcohol is also volatile, it evaporates away.
    There can be other subtances added besides alcohol, but its written in the composition of it (usually written in the bottle). If you have any doubt about if you should or not use some brand of acetone, tell me what are the other components of your acetone, and ill say if its suitable or not for making hash oil.
     
  4. Trip06

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    I had about a zone of some keef. I just put it in a small jar with some. Any guesses how much this will yeild. Im curious in my waiting....
     
  5. Trip06

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    apparently I didnt seal the lid tight enouf as all my pressious crystals appeared to evaporate away in the wind. SHHH!T.
     
  6. Trip06

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    Coelho I tried this method again followed it to the letter. I used a ounce of swag keef. I ground all the budz in a electric coffee grinder. I scraped the keef off the top that stuck on the lid. I gathered nearly a ounce of keef alone. I put the keef in a small jar with the right amount of acetone. I shook it regularly and kept it in a dark dresser drawr. I waited two days. the liqiud was dark brown. Poured on a plate with boiling water in a pot under it. The result was no honey. In fact it is not a goo but a harder brown solid. I made sure it was really dry by heating it and placeing a fan by it. After I got a small piece as dry as it could possibly get, I felt safe enouf to put it in a one hitter and smoke. Now this shits sposed to be really high thc right? because it absorbs it, well any way I got a quick high but nothing great and it wore off in like 10 minutes. I used a lot of keef. even for regular budz i shoulda got a lot more of a high but didnt. I ended up with about 7 grams of what Id call a poor hash.(NOT OIL) any ways I recomend people not do this IMHO.
     
  7. Coelho

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    Well, when i do it, sometimes i get a hard resin, sometimes an oily resin... each kind of weed i use yelds slightly different results... but all are very smokable.
    How much of it (grams, or the size of the piece) did you smoke?
     
  8. Coelho

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    Ok, this post is a translation to portuguese of the recipe for making hash oil.

    Ingredientes:
    - Maconha (Oba! :jointsmile:)
    - Acetona (removedor de esmalte)
    - Uma garrafinha de vidro

    Instrucoes:

    Primeiro, a erva deve ser descarboxilada par aumentar ao maximo sua potencia. Isto pode ser feito colocando-a durante uns 2-3 minutos no microondas, ou enrolando-a em papel aluminio e colocando-a numa sanduicheira por uns 10 minutos.
    (Nota: a erva deve estar inteira (NAO picada) se vc for colocar no microondas... se ela estiver picada, pode pegar fogo. Na sanduicheira tanto faz.)
    Essa parada de descarboxilar serve pra erva que vai ser fumada tambem... antes de fumar, experimente fazer isso, e vc vai ver a diferenca...

    Depois de descarboxilada, a erva deve estar seca e crocante. Moa bem, ate ela ficar quase um po.

    Ponha a erva picada na garrafinha, e adicione acetona. O volume de acetona deve ser pelo menos umas 2 vezes maior que o volume da erva picada (ver fig.1 no post original). Feche bem, pois a acetona evapora facil, e deixe num lugar escuro por varios dias. (1 semana e suficiente). Deve ser um lugar escuro pois a luz destroi o THC. De vez em quando de uma chacoalhada, pra melhorar a dissolucao.

    Uma coisa importante e o tipo e a pureza da acetona usada. Normalmente as acetonas vendidas em farmacia como removedor de esmalte tem 50-60% depureza (como escrito no rotulo). Quanto maior a pureza, melhor. Note tambem as outras substancias presentes. Se for alcool (etanol), nao tem problema. Ja outras substancias (ja vi acetona que continha oleo de ricino!) nao prestam. Por isso deve-se tomar cuidado ao comprar a acetona.

    Depois desse tempo, a acetona estara escura e tera dissolvido o THC. Deve-se entao evaporar a acetona. Se vc morar num lugar quente, coloque a acetona num prato raso, com cuidado pra que apenas a acetona fique no prato (e nao os restos de erva picada que ficam no fundo da garrafinha). Aqui no RJ, no verao, em menos de uma tarde a acetona evapora toda.

    Caso vc more num lugar mais frio, ou se estiver inverno, pode-se evaporar a acetona artificialmente. Note que isto e perigoso, e deve ser feito com TODO o cuidado. Neste caso, bote a acetona numa taca de vinho (ou qualquer outra) com o fundo arredondado. Bote esta taca numa panela com agua, e esquente a agua. Essa agua quente vai aquecer e evaporar a acetona. Se possivel, esquente a agua com um aquecedor eletrico, pois a acetona e ALTAMENTE inflamavel, e fazer isso no fogao eh o maior perigo!

    Se possivel, evapore a acetona em um lugar aberto, bem ventilado e longe de fontes de calor, faiscas e quaisquer coisas que possam causar um incendio.

    Quando a acetona tiver evaporado, vai ficar um residuo marrom escuro/preto no fundo do prato ou da taca. As vezes, quando se evapora a acetona naturalmente (sem aquecer), fica tambem um pouco de liquido quase transparente que nao evaporou. Se este liquido estiver transparente, pode joga-lo fora sem problemas.

    Este residuo é o oleo de hash. Tira-lo do prato ou da taca e uma das coisas mais chatas que tem, pois ele e ALTAMENTE grudento, gruda em tudo! E nao sai depois... por isso tem que tomar cuidado. Use uma faca sem ponta (eu uso uma agulha grossa de metal) pra raspar o oleo. Botar agua no prato ou na taca ajuda bastante, pois debaixo dagua o oleo gruda menos no prato. Se ele estiver muito duro (solido), use agua quente, pois ela deixa o oleo mais mole. Se ele estiver muito mole, use agua fria. Tem uma temperatura ideal em que o oleo desgruda facilmente do prato/taca.
    De qualquer forma, va raspando esse oleo e tente fazer uma bolinha com ele. NAO bote as maos nele, pois ele gruda na mao e nao sai mais. Se precisar encostar nele, molhe os dedos, pois a agua diminui a "grudosidade" dele.

    E esta pronto! Tem gente que mistura o oleo no beck e fuma, mas eu acho um disperdicio... prefiro bota-lo numa latinha, aquecer por baixo e inspirar os vapores... de qualquer forma, esse oleo de hash e bem mais forte que fumo comum, e apesar da onda ser um pouco diferente da onda do fumo (e mais "limpa" sei la... dificil descrever), ainda sim chapa muuuito... :stoned:

    Qualquer duvida, e so postar aqui. :thumbsup:

    PS. Ah sim da pra fazer hash oil com pontas sim... ele vai ficar um pouco mais resinoso, ja que as pontas tem um monte dakela resina gosmenta... mas tambem da pra fumar na boa, ainda que o gosto nao fique dos melhores...
     
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  9. braziliantoker

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    hei Coelho thanks for the translation was very helpful,i have another question,can i do some think about the smell of the acetona,because of my parents,they know i smoke but making oil will be strange you know.well i think it will be difficult because the smell is very strong.thanks carica,e nois.
     
  10. schighguy

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    with the amounts of weed used and the danger of actually making it, ill just tsick to buying it from the club at 50-60 a gram
     
  11. deaner

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    my go

    hey i tried this method, just tried the final product, yay for this dude and this thread. heres my experience. used 100% acetone and used about 1/2 or so ounce of bud/trim/shake, soak for 2 days and then poured the mix through a coffee filter onto a pie baking glass dish, pyrex. 2 days of evaporation using a fan for about half of it, and ended up with what looks like super black tar, fresh shiny tar, semi-fluid, consistency of really really cold honey, mostly solid til ya poke it and its like freshly removed resins. i spread it on some decent bud, stuff that would take 10-15 hits for me to be really enjoyin things, and smoked about a good boogers worth, and yes this shit works, i normally dont dash to the computer to give an enthusiastic reply, im just pretty stoked, looks to be a bunch, if this is all i need, i got a fat marbles worth. im not sure if a good boogers worth is standard measure in your parts, and a fat marbles big, like a cherry, or the perfect nipple.. ok i measured, its between 3 - 4 millimeters.. (the booger, not the perfect nipple)
    i really do hope at some point, someone is holding a marble up to their or their partners nipple. thanks for the thread.
     
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  12. Honey oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Read!

    Acetone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Also with acetone, its extremely dangerous. If you choose to use acetone buy pure acetone from a hardware or automotive store, it'll be sitting with the rest of the solvents they sell.

    I do not use a plastic lid, I instead make a lid with aluminum foil and seal it with a rubber band. You could take your washed plant material and put in between two flat glass plates/discs and squeeze! Or something of a sort!

    Be sure that ALL acetone / solvent has evaporated!
     
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2008
  13. AhHello

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    LOL Acetone is dangerous but butane fumes aren't?

    Supercritical fluid extraction is the best method which BHO or Butane extraction is. There are solvents that are more selective then others. The best solvent for THC extraction is liquid CO2. It requires a special pressurized unit to extract with CO2 but yields a product of 98% pure cannabinoids which can be purified through isomerization to pure Δ9-THC.

    Using solvents such as acetone, alcohol or ether will work to make hash oil, but it takes many more steps to obtain a pure product. Butane extraction is by far the easiest way to make the most pure hash oil. Isomerization of this oil or any oil for that matter, makes the same amount of product much stronger and it takes very little knowledge to perform the most common isomerization method list above.
     
  14. norcalkush

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    i use vector 5 filter butane with copper fittins i made from home depot...
    1 tea kettle
    1brownie pan
    1 pyrex pan to fit in the brownie pan
    boil water continuasly
    put boil water in brownie sheet then pyrex ontop floating ontop the boiling water... do this section outside it is safer as when u blow the only in the pyrex u will c the vapor rising very quickly after u blow all your oil into the pyrex and make shure u were adding boiling water everytime it cold... outside put fresh boil water n cover pyrex with towl i do this for 5 mintues then bring inside an put pyrex in a fry pan full with water n set to boil i do this with hand mittin to hold to pyrex in the boilin water i do this until i c no more bubble rise n should smell srtong to where u wanna sneeze... now u kno no containaments are in your oil
     
  15. deaner

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    title

    so is there any way to make the final product harder? its kinda hard to work with and can be messy, i have a system and am very happy with it, but my oil stays in its pyrex dish til its gone, i smoke what i want, leave the rest to scrape another day. I cant figure out how to store it or make it more portable, u dig? i tried making "wafer" sorta things, freezin em, but they were still messy, and i dont want them in my freezer.

    im wondering if my final product could be harder if my starting product was completely dry?? either way the stuffs great, i got a jar i will pour tommorow, and a couple days evaporatin later, some crazy good smokin.

    any suggestions on smokin it? i scrape it with a razor, scrape it off the razor with a paper clip, then just hit it (the oil laden paperclip) with the lighter for a quick second and drip it onto some bud or some old ragged bowl remnants, and voila!! but id like something a bit easier and not so paperclippy, u know? :stoned:
     
  16. Coelho

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    Well... i noticed that when i let the weed soaking in the acetone for a long time (1-2 weeks), the final product is harder than when i let it soaking for only some days.
    Anyway, you could add some powdered shake to it. The shake helps to harden the hash oil. If you add enough of it, you can even make it solid.
     
  17. joeiskrunk

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    Hello Coelho, I was just wondering if using 14 grams of vaped weed and maybe adding some little extra amounts to it would yield at least a half gram of honey oil? I would like to use the Butane extraction with the PVC pipe draining into the Pyrex glasses but was also wondering if the isopropyl alcohol or butane extraction is more effective? I live in northern midwest and its getting somewhat cold out would this effect the butane if im doing it in weather outside around 32 Farenheit? I would love to hear some advice.
    Much appreciated,
    Joe
     
  18. SirHashaLot

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    OK ,Check this out:

    The black paste you guys are getting from this type of solvent extraction is great but like the the guy said it's hard to smoke and "What the hell do you do with it?" -

    Here's the Trick of All Tricks:

    Make your black paste, then make some bubble hash or good hard cooked keif (you can use regular uncooked keif but your hash will be soft)

    Then crumble the bubble hash up and slowly blend it with the oil in ratios that allow it to form a big black ball. eventually all the oil is worked into your ball of bubble hash and you get a big black chunk of black hash. Let it dry and and becomes hard as a rock and is way better to smoke than the oil by itself and can be handled and stored without "sticky loss".

    This is what I do to get the most out of the herb. Instead of getting 15% extraction of bubble hash and throwing the rest out, I can get up to 50% of the weight of the original herb turn 1 lb of shake into 1/2lb of decent hash using the oil method.

    By the way if you smoke a lot of pot, then you really need this ELEV8
     
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  19. SirHashaLot

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    BE FUCKING CAREFUL!

    Another tip is to BE FUCKING CAREFUL!

    The Solvents you guys are talking about can ignite from an open flame several feet away. my buddy lit a bowl while he was standing next to me watching me do this and the whole fucking thing lit up like a damn Christmas tree!

    Always work in a WELL VENTILATED AREA! Don't fuck around and get stone and burn you house down! I was lucky because I had fire safety and knew what to do, but my buddy would have run out of the house and watched it burn down. Then when the cops and fire dept. figure out how the fire started and what I was doing, guess who's fire insurance would not have paid for the damage?!

    Instead of using acetone or some other nasty solvent, I use Everclear from the liquor store. it's more expensive but that doesn't matter. it won't hurt you as bad to breath it, doesn't smell as bad, and it's made for human consumption. You can also pour some in at the end of your solvent batch to "Clean" your final product. After you get most

    and if you smoke a lot of pot, then you really need this ELEV8
     
  20. SirHashaLot

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    my grammar sucks, sorry!

    my grammar sucks, sorry!
     
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