is piss test gender specific?

Discussion in 'Drug Testing' started by herbmonkey, Feb 18, 2008.

  1. herbmonkey

    herbmonkey Registered

    hi all,

    alright, of course i have a drug test coming up tomorrow... =\
    and i haven't been well-behaved...
    you know what i mean... =p

    i want to be 100% sure i will pass this test...
    so i fessed up to my mom about me having been smoking...
    she agrees to let me use her urine...
    she's never touched any drugs in her life...
    so hers is 100% gonna pass...

    but heres my question...

    i'm a guy....
    would the test shows that the piss is from a woman?
     
  2. Burnt Toast

    Burnt Toast Moderator

    Gender is irrelevant with drug testing. Drug testing devices test for the presence of drug metabolites and have no ability to determine the sex of the donor.
    That being said, any human sample can be used as a sub as long as its known to be drug-free and not overhydrated.
     
  3. herbmonkey

    herbmonkey Registered

    thats awesome...

    i was worried that they might see the estrogen level.... you know?
     
  4. killerweed420

    killerweed420 Registered+

    Are you absolutely sure she is not taking any prescriptions?
     
  5. Burnt Toast

    Burnt Toast Moderator

    Drug testing is not CSI. Estrogen analysis requires an entirely different test - one that is not within the scope of drug testing, and cannot be conducted as part of a drug test.
     
  6. herbmonkey

    herbmonkey Registered

    yes i'm sure she's not taking any medication at all.. :)

    and thanks Burnt Toast, your knowledge is saving my ass... =p

    oh btw, i just went to pick up a home drug test kit...
    made by "First Check" and it says "FDA Cleared" on the box...
    it also claims to be very accurate...

    does that mean, if i pass this home test thing, i will pass the real thing?
     
  7. killerweed420

    killerweed420 Registered+

    Yes,if you pass a home test you should be fine. But its still always a good idea to follow the dillution sticky the morning of the test to just be sure.
     
  8. herbmonkey

    herbmonkey Registered

    man.. i'm screwed...

    the home test kit says i'm positive.... :(
     
  9. killerweed420

    killerweed420 Registered+

    As long as your moms urine is clean use it. You'll have to play with the temp to get it right.
     
  10. Psycho4Bud

    Psycho4Bud The Modfather

    Maybe FBR can shed some needed light one way or another but I'd be VERY carefull using another genders piss for a test. Why would Quick Fix 4.0 advertise their product as being unisex if it didn't matter?

    The Quick Fix is unisex so a male or female can use it to pass nicotine tests.


    Also, I had a friend that was piss tested back around "01".....the good news was that he passed the test, bad news was that he was pregnant. I found out when I stopped into his home and he was having a heart to heart with his 17 yr. old daughter.

    After a one month suspension and a clean test he was back to work...a few months later he was grandpa. Cool kid.....:thumbsup:

    I'd get him to post a confirmation about this but unfortunately he passed away last year.

    Have a good one!:jointsmile:
     
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  11. oLiLlY

    oLiLlY Registered+

    Drug tests are not tested for gender and im thinking Quick Fix prob says unisex because people arent sure if they test for gender...just like this guy asked.
     
  12. herbmonkey

    herbmonkey Registered

    hmm.. well just to be safe...
    i got one of my neighbor, my friend's little brother, to piss for me...
    now i need to read up on substitution...

    thanks everyone :)
    wish me luck~! ^^v
     
  13. killerweed420

    killerweed420 Registered+

    If its just a drug test they won't test for gender. If its a test for an insurance company or something they will be testing for more things. Hope that wasn't too technical.lol
     
  14. Burnt Toast

    Burnt Toast Moderator

    Unless your friend gave prior written authorization (on an entirely seperate and detailed consent form), the lab had broken the law for running a pregnancy test (or any other test that is outside the scope of drug testing) on a urine sample that was collected for a drug test. DHHS regulations only allow the labs to test for drug metabolites, creatinine, specific gravity, pH, excessive oxidants, excessive nitrites, excessive chromates, and the presence of glutaraldehyde.

    FBR had previously shed the light in the Substitution sticky. To quote FBR....

    With everything being said, 'pregnant' stories in the drug testing world are nothing but old wives tales. The funny thing is that the tales had their origins from an old Cheech and Chong skit.
     
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  15. Burnt Toast

    Burnt Toast Moderator

    Its all about MARKETING

    For the same reason why Dr Johns used to tout their "Famous Pee" to "protect against genetic profiling" - pure sales pitch designed to woo in the uninformed, and perhaps trying to justify their higher costs in comparison to other brands of synthetic urine.
    The fact is that labs practicing in the US are prohibited from running unauthorized genetic tests on urine samples collected for a drug test.

    Sales pitch or not, the fact that synthetics are advertised as being unisex screams volumes that gender is not tested in urine samples being collected for a drug test.
     
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  16. island4reg

    island4reg Registered

    I recently bought some Absolute De-Tox drink from DeTox.com & some tests from Teststrips.com for an upcoming (3 days) pre-employment urine test. I was testing dirty. It had been 3 wks. since I smoked an eighth in one weekend & only very occasionally prior to that. Drank the drink, still tested dirty. When I purchased it I asked about a guarantee & was told that the manufacturer offered the guarantee, to save my receipt. Spectrum Labs is the listed on the bottle but the actual website is urineluck.com. They wanted a failed lab test. Said that home tests were not reliable & I did not use their product correctly. I did. They were VERY rude & uncooperative. Would not honor the guarantee or stand behind their product. I use my brothers clean urine. The temp. passed so feeling pretty good about it. Should know in a few days. Hearing that they cannot tell gender is really putting my mind at ease!! Don't trust urineluck.com. Good Luck!!
     
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  17. killerweed420

    killerweed420 Registered+

    Sorry to hear about your problem with Spectrum Labs. But I can understand why they wanted proof froma failed lab report. I would want documented proof too if I guaranteed a product. This is why you won't find many people here recommending detox drinks. They are NOT reliable, no matter who makes them. Synthetic urine is far more reliable. More reliable than even subbing with someone elses urine.
     
  18. rhythmdoctor

    rhythmdoctor Registered

    Hey everyone - newbie here. I found this site while googling for drug screens and gender. Anyways, now that I've found you, I plan on being an active member.

    Moving on, regarding the post I quoted - why is synthetic urine more reliable than subbing with someone you know who is clean? Reason I ask is because I have a test this Saturday and I have synthetic but planned on using my wife's. The synthetic has a supposed shelf life of one year and the synthetic is about 1 year old now. Either way, I don't know how using synthetic would be better than actual urine. I really want to make the right call here (obviously) so any and all help is much appreciated.
     
  19. msc008

    msc008 Registered

    I've heard the same thing about synthetic urine over natural... I'm not sure why.

    Marijuana Medical Handbook (by Dale Gieringer) came out recently and has a very up to date chapter on drug testing.
     
  20. Burnt Toast

    Burnt Toast Moderator

    Theres a few advantages synthetic has over real human urine. For starters, synthetics far outlast real pee when stored at room temperature. Sure you can obtain a human sample for a sub, but you have to ask yourself:

    - Is the sub donor truly clean of any drugs, including scripted and OTC meds?

    - Has the sub donor consumed large amounts of fluids (intentionally or not) prior to giving you the sample?

    To avoid these kinds of worries, synthetic urine is the way to go.
     

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