Miracle Grow or cheap potting soil

Discussion in 'Outdoor Growing' started by defcubus04, May 7, 2006.

  1. defcubus04

    defcubus04 Registered

    Hello everyone, I am starting my 2nd yr grow on monday and was wondering if I shuld use miracle grow potting soil. Ive heard its bad? I also got a cheap dollar bag or soil which wuld be better to use?>
  2. krustythfreakinclown

    krustythfreakinclown Registered+

    The first grow I ever did, I used Miracle Gro potting soil and it caused me all sorts of problems. Go with the any potting soil that doesn't have nutrients in it already. I've done two grows using cheap potting soil and had great results.

    The problem with soils that have nutrients in them already, such as Miracle Grow, is that the nutrients are urea-based and not necessarily organic. As a result, it screws up the soil'd pH, and the nutrients are not evenly fed to the plant, which results in the plant getting randomly burnt.

    If you are dead set on using soil with nutrients in it, you certainly can buy soil with organic nutrients, but it'll cost like $15/bag.

    If you are still relatively new to growing, get a few successful grows under your belt, then start to experiment. Start off simple, then branch out and build upon your successes later.
  3. defcubus04

    defcubus04 Registered

    another ? i also bought a bag of peat moss how much of that shuld i add in with each plant?
  4. Jdog7000

    Jdog7000 Registered+

    Don't add moss, add perlite to your soil that you buy. The moss will help rot your roots if you don't add perlite. You can add both like this if you really want the moss in it.
    50% soil/25% perlite,25% peat moss(peat moss is not nessisary)
  5. bluntman2006

    bluntman2006 Registered+

    miracle grow organic potting soil is nice :Rasta:
  6. kush07

    kush07 Registered+

    I strongly agree. If you do use Miracle Grow then look at the label. The usual run of the mill Miracle Grow is full of chemicals, that while good for other plants, are awful for cannabis. Miracle Grow organic potting soil is the shiznizzle though. Try and get it.

    Happy Toking :Rasta:
  7. Madja

    Madja Registered

    Miracle grow organic soil question

    Hi, If I can find that around here, can you tell approx cost of the bag and
    how much is in it. If you or anybodyelse has the time can you tell me
    what I could add in and how much like perlite or vermiculte(I'm overall
    container growing outside)I don't have anymoney to spend and I have the
    perlite and vermiculite. I would like to make a mix where I don't have to
    go there very often. I have water crystals, E.J grow and bloom and a few
    more different liqiuid fert. I just reall need some cheap soil mixes. Thank
    you and thanks to everyone else too.
  8. Eshelmen

    Eshelmen Registered+

    probably like 10 bux max
  9. L3G10N

    L3G10N Registered+

    Would Miracle Gro Organic garden soil work? I cant seem to find the Organic potting mix.
  10. bro

    bro Registered

    miracle grow is a mix that has miracle grow ferts added to a base potting mix and it is too acidic for pot plants. i would add some wood ash to raise the pH
  11. death racer

    death racer Registered+

    i use miracle grow and it works great my plants look healthy one has already started showing its white hairs, but miracle grow doesnt always work for everyone it can cause problems so its best to research the soil they sell at the stores near you before you decide.
  12. SilentHawk36

    SilentHawk36 Registered

    I used for 1/2 my grow a miracle grow organic potting soil. Then i threw in some extra perlite about 1-2 cups for each hole (btw 4 holes=1 bag of soil) and just a dab of general nute 10-10-10. Going to check on my plants on sat and suspectin they will be about 6-8 inches tall.

    But it is true. Miracle grow soil is usually loaded with nutes for people who are use it for flowers. It is best to avoid miracle grow generally unless you know for SURE its organic.

    Hope this helps a little,

  13. incognito570

    incognito570 Registered

    i added epsoma garden lime to my mix and its readily avialable to help with any ph problems that arise. Im also using Neptunes fish/seaweed 2-3-1 formula once a week also. My first set of plants are 8 weeks old and 3-4 ft long. They are tied to the ground. PH checks out good so its workn for me.
  14. Dazed4now

    Dazed4now Registered+

    I've used miracle gro and cheap soil, none of them worked good for me
    what i would suggest is to go to your local garden store and get some potting soil with no nutrients in it and is a mixture of peat moss, perlite, and soil
    then go buy your own nutrients and just add them to the potting soil so you know exactly how much nutrients your feeding your plants
    and also get some soil test kits to
    good luck
  15. stinkyattic

    stinkyattic CultiModerVatorAtor

    Watch out for peat moss. It has a low pH, and holds too much water. The combination of acid/waterlogged is deadly.

    Extra perlite is a good idea. My best plants ever were grown in a third perlite, 2/3rds plain topsoil (bagged, not from my yard!). I also mixed in mycorrhizae and liquid fish. Growth was very good.

    You have to water more often if you use lots of perlite, but the payoff in aeration and root development is worth it.

    My current mix is vermiculite and seaweed compost, because the perlite-laden soil looks too obvious when discarded. However I'm going back to perlite because it drains MUCH better.

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