Newbie to growing

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by Justo, Oct 6, 2017.

  1. Justo

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    Hi all I’m attempting my 1st grow , an just wondering on the lighting front and also what to germinate/grow in ie soil etc.
    I’m thinking because it’s my 1st attempt an only 1 plant to start I’m going to use 40w 6500k cfl for the vegetation An then 40w 2700k for flowering. Daft question though would a 40w be an actual 40w or is it a 9w lamp but 40w equivalent?? Prob use 4 lamps for each stage.
    An as for the soil/compost n nutrients I have no idea lol..
    I’m growing Royal Jack Auto btw
    Thanks for reading An look forward to some much needed help..

    Justo
     
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  2. Dutch Pimp

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    Best advise for a new grower: ask first, do later...and that applies to every single detail.

    Buy a grow book, read ...just follow the yellow brick road.
     
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  3. Agricola Novos

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    Torrent marijuana growers guide, the famous one by Rosenthal. It has evrything. Also, youtube is great for that. Just type cfl and grow and have a look.
     
  4. Justo

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    Thanks for the tips , will def look those up An give it a go...
     
  5. Agricola Novos

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    let me know whats up/what u find bc im literally in the same boat. 1st grow attempt for me too. Im only keeping it small, using the local seeds i have.
    Good luck!!!
     
  6. Justo

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    I will do, but I’m struggling to source some 6500k bulbs but have found some 8000k , I don’t suppose anyone here knows if these would be ok for vegetation stage????
     
  7. Weezard

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    And the answer is?
    Probably. :)

    I'd go for it. Cannabis is not that fussy for veg.
    It will use whatever it can get.

    That said, they do need red.
    Red light, at 660 nm. does all the heavy lifting.
    An 8 k. temp. has more blue than a 6500 k. but still has enough red to grow well.
    But because of the extra blue it may make your plants short and squat.
    I find that adding extra blue with an LED grow will keep the internodes closer.
    When I cut the blue back it causes stretch. They get tall, and spindly.

    So start them under the 8k. lights, you can always add some red if the get too squat.

    Aloha,
    Wee 'zard
     
  8. Justo

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    Thank you for that, will give them a go and see what happens, maybe worth throwing in a 2700k as well with the 8000k’s?? Just need to make my grow box ‘of which is all planned out in my head at the mo’ lol.. Then fingers crossed, some pointers on soil to grow in An nutrients would be a great help too..

    Thanks
     
  9. Weezard

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    Happy to help.

    That's about all I can tell you with CFLs though.
    I switched to LEDs from metal halides in 2006.
    Tried CFLs but yield was too low.

    LEDs can target the most efficient wavelengths which saves on electricity.
    I can veg 2 plants to 3 feet high under 50 Watts of the proper frequency.
    i.e., 660nm. and 460nm..
    And I have some control over morphology by playing with the R:B ratio.

    Can't offer much guidance on nutes. Quit using them about 6 years back.
    I prefer starting with good soil and up-potting if deficiencies arise.
    How's that working out?
    Well, I'm pretty happy with it;

    Da gang.JPG fatties.JPG stash1.JPG
     
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  10. Justo

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    Woah, looking good, very impressed indeed , can’t really be growing like that in my country as the Authorities not going to be impressed at all lol . Will go with my cfl’s an see how it goes and let you know...
     
  11. Agricola Novos

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    I have Cfl, LED bulbs, MH and HPS regulators (no bulbs). I'm going to experiment with the Cfl x4 at the side and the LED on top, but ideally, I will get bulbs for the MH and have the MH at the top... I'm fucking loving this. My first plant is only 2 ft tall, but already looking good. And this is with average bush bud under light - i dont have quality seeds yet?
    thanks for update.
    If we can we should keep this going and talk about our setup etc etc. Dunno abut y;all but i want some good tips!!!
    lol
    J
     
  12. Agricola Novos

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    O
    OMG. WOW. SPEECHLESS. GREEN PORN!!!!
     
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  13. Justo

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    Def try to keep it going , my build starts tomorrow to House my plants so might add a pic or two.. Is there any right or wrong way to start the seeds off???
     
  14. Weezard

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    Yes.
    Pointy end up and deep enough so it can use hydraulics and leverage to shed the husk. sprout.jpg turnaround 2.jpg
    The first thing a root tip does is take a u-turn. That gives it purchase to first help he tap root burrow down and B., to then pull the seed body up through the soil which forces the husk open and leaves it in he soil. Planted too shallow, the seed husk will have to be manually removed. That is a risky endeavor.
    Planting seeds pointy side down is a major cause of "runting".
    I found that paper towel sprouting can damage early "feeder" roots. They stick to the towel fibers.
    So, now, I start them in dirt with these guidelines.

    Aloha,

    Wee 'zard
     

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  15. Agricola Novos

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    6500 is perfect for vegetative at 18x ... up to 6700, then down to 2000 during the flowering 2/12 period...
     
  16. Justo

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    Thanks for the info on the seeds, prob be planted mid week as a few final tweaks to my little project grow cupboard.. But it’s certainly on its way..
     

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  17. Justo

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    Finished product
     

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  18. Justo

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    Hopefully should be enough light have another bulb though just in case....
     

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  19. Weezard

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    Here's a tip that may serve you well.
    Lose the foil.

    Seriously.
    We have all started grows with foil, it seems to be very common in first grows.
    Turns out that Aluminum foil is a poor reflector The dull side returns 80% and the shiny side only returns 88%
    It reflects heat and does so oddly. Corners can generate "hot spots"
    Mylar is inexpensive and reflects 98%.
    Reflectix is also 98% but is much easier to install and maintain
    They too, can create hotspots.

    Your best bet is flat, white, paint.
    That cabinet will take less than a pint.
    Two coats will get you 97%.

    I once bought a quantity of plate glass mirrors at a garage sale and constructed a large cabinet with them. Looked really cool.
    Then did some reading and testing with a LUX meter.
    Long story short, I painted over the mirrors with white paint. :)

    Re-purpose that foil as lamp reflectors for the CFLs
    Keeps the hot spots at the light, and recovers another 30% or so that otherwise gets lost to the inverse square law.

    The CFLs will do well for vegging.
    If you flower indoors, you might want to think about stronger lighting for that.

    Aloha,
    Weeze
     
  20. Weezard

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    Oh yeah, I just notice in you original post.

    It should be printed on the base of the bulb.
    If not, "Killawatt" meters are not expensive. About $20.
    I use one to read the actual wattage of my LED arrays, and all my power eaters. :)

    For auto-flower plants, add the 2700k early.

    Carry on,
    Weeze
     

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