Iganja: ok, i get it what you mean now.. Yeah thats good to know cuz it does get pretty chilly here but we don't really get much snow i'm close to the ocean. I'm curious how your LED box grow does..you grow just 1 or 2 plants at a time? Yeah that's one nice thing about LED & CFL cab/box grows..the lights don't give off too much heat so you can turn nearly anthing into a growbox. A refridgerator box, a DIY wood or pvc framed panda covered tent, almost anything. IMHO a "PC grow" is kinda silly but use what ya got! I read a really great article about "space buckets" on Rollitup or somewhere.. For small stealth grows, i think those are pretty cool. One plant per bucket, adjustable height, enclosed CFLs, & small PC muffin fans for intake & exhaust. They are like little enclosed growrooms for each plant. Creative ideas, everywhere! Who said stoners are lazy & dumb? Lol.