Pot to be legal Oct. 17, says Trudeau

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  1. DirtyBlueGene

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    © Provided by thecanadianpress.com Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced the date Wednesday during question period in the House of Common.

    OTTAWA - Canadians will be able to legally purchase and consume recreational marijuana as of Oct. 17 — one month later than expected.

    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced the date Wednesday during question period in the House of Commons, which is expected to end the day by rising for a three-month summer break.

    Trudeau said the government delayed the timetable for lifting the almost century-old prohibition on marijuana at the request of larger provinces, including Quebec, which asked for more time to make the transition to a legal regime for regulating the production, distribution and consumption of cannabis.

    On Tuesday, the Senate approved Bill C-45, the bill establishing the new legal regime, after seven months of intensive study and debate.

    Senators also dropped their insistence on amendments to the bill, most notably one that would have authorized provincials and territorial governments to prohibit the home cultivation of marijuana plants if they choose.

    On Wednesday, Trudeau and his ministers were basking in the glow of finally delivering on one of the Liberals' biggest campaign promises in 2015.

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    Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould called the legislation — which still requires royal assent to become law — "transformative."

    "C-45 marks a wholesale shift in how our country approaches cannabis," she said.

    "It leaves behind a failed model of prohibition, a model that has made organized crime rich and left our young people vulnerable. In its place we will have a new system that will give adults the opportunity to purchase and consume cannabis legally from authorized suppliers.

    "Most importantly, our shift in policy will protect youth from the health and safety risks of cannabis and keep those same criminals from profiting from its production, distribution and sale."

    Still, Wilson-Raybould stressed that pot remains illegal in Canada until the new law goes into effect in October.

    "I urge all Canadians to continue to follow the existing law until the Cannabis Act comes into force," she told a news conference.

    Bill C-46, a companion bill that Wilson-Raybould predicts will give Canada the strongest impaired-driving rules in the world, is also expected to be passed in the next day or two by the Senate.


    Until then, Wilson-Raybould said: "I would like to also remind the public that driving while impaired by drugs is, and will remain, illegal."

    It was clear, however, that there are still more questions than answers about what Canada's nascent legal-pot landscape will look like — how police will test motorists, what to do about those with prior marijuana convictions and just how the rules governing home cultivation will work.

    Quebec, Manitoba and Nunavut have already decided to ban home-grown weed, despite the fact that the new federal law stipulates that individuals may grow up to four plants per dwelling.

    Wilson-Raybould said the federal government has no intention of challenging provincial bans on home-grown pot but she noted that some individuals may well launch legal challenges.

    In the Commons, New Democrat MP Don Davies attempted to pass a motion calling on the government to immediately pardon Canadians convicted of simple cannabis possession — something that will no longer be a crime as of Oct. 17. The motion did not muster the necessary unanimous consent.

    Trudeau has strongly hinted that pardons are likely but he has resolutely refused to go down that path before the law is changed.

    "We recognize that anyone who is currently purchasing marijuana is participating in illegal activity that is funding criminal organizations and street gangs,” he said in January.

    “And therefore we do not want to encourage in any way people to engage in that behaviour until the law is changed.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/cana...trudeau/ar-AAyUFdv?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartandhp


    Better late than never, I suppose.
    ;)
     
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  2. Dutch Pimp

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    you lucky dogs :thumbsupold:
     
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  3. TomSawyer2112

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    If you actually read the new law.... You might do a double take.
    Doesn’t sound like legalization to me.
    Lots of grey areas and dangerous red flags in this legal language.

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  4. Dutch Pimp

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    their still lucky...it's a hanging offense, here :oops:
     
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  5. TomSawyer2112

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    Same here. But those new laws look more like a crackdown than a “legalization” and the language is so vague, it appears there’s a lot of foot traps you could get hung up in. It would just depend on the cops interpretations of the law as he or she sees it. Mighty dangerous.
     
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  6. DirtyBlueGene

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    It was never about doing the right thing here, and all about control and cashing in. There will be so many more laws against cannabis than there ever was.

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  7. irydyum

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    How is allowing possession up to 30g and 4 plants not legalizing? It's basically the same model most of the states have adopted to introduce legalization. The term "legalization" definitely addresses more than just the end user of the products too, don't forget that. It's also protecting businesses that are producing the products for the consumers.

    I'm just shocked at times that when progress is made, it's never enough, or it's not done right, or it doesn't address x, y, and z...

    As someone who is participating daily in the Canadian MJ system, I'm proud of what they've done and the progress made. First G7 nation to even take a crack at ending federal prohibition. Maybe it's not perfect, but it's progress. Much more than we have done at the federal level in the US.
     
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  8. Elena_La_Loca

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    Those regulations that are posted if you can see, is from APRIL 2017... a LOT has changed since that
    Like... possession of flowering plants is NOT an offence (unless you are in quebec... poor fuckers)

    Take a look at this - https://www.mtlblog.com/news/a-list-of-all-the-new-marijuana-regulations-in-every-canadian-province

    Better yet... look at the Official Canadian Site - https://www.canada.ca/en/health-can...s/laws-regulations/provinces-territories.html

    It blows my mind that one can "spark up a J" in BC anywhere that cigarettes are allowed. I am just imagining now in the smoking area of a Bar, and sparking up a big fattie... :D:D
     
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  9. TomSawyer2112

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    They seem to have a lot of grey areas in their laws. And driving with THC in your system whether you’re high or not is now seemingly becoming problematic. And then there’s the border issues.
    But YES. At least Canada is ahead of us federally.
     
  10. TomSawyer2112

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    Well. I just notice there’s people on my twitter feed who live in Canada who are posting some really weird things that are happening to Canadian citizens now that it’s legal there. Apparently there’s some defects and holes in the details of laws that Canadians are not happy with.
    As for me, I don’t want regulation and taxes on cannabis. Do our respective governments treat tomatoes like that?
    I want cannabis as legal as tomatoes. Period. Never trust the government. (Same government that stamps approval on Big Pharma, by the way).
    You know where that’s gonna lead.
     
  11. Elena_La_Loca

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    I agree that it should be as legal as tomatoes. I found myself using that term more than once in passing conversation.

    BUT.... (and boy that's a big butt! lol)
    there are also CONS that I understand the 'government' may have some qualms about. And that is I DO believe that it's an intoxicant in which youth should not be indulging (unless medically necessary)... there are levels of "stoned" that I do believe one should NOT be handling large machinery (like a car)...
    ... Tomatoes don't do that. I don't care how many of them you consume.

    Mixing WITH alcohol is also not a good idea, can render people complete idiots. Believe me, I've seen it more than enough times in my youth.

    so you see?... it's a lot more involved than just comparing it to tomatoes, though yes, it's just as NATURAL as tomatoes.

    Now there's MATURE USE, that should be honored and respected and a right. A RIGHT.

    So there's not really a perfect answer to this political conundrum ... and no matter what path is decided, you cannot please everyone.
     
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