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Should First Grow Be Hydro Or Soil?

Discussion in 'Growing Information' started by 4osiris, Nov 7, 2007.

  1. 4osiris

    4osiris Registered+

    Due to the fact that I am prepping for my first grow and will be aiming for success. I want to attempt a soil grow with a rubbermaid(30gal)set up(cfl's and fan included). I have roughly 200 seeds from bags that I've collected. I figured I'd seperate the best from the rest and begin my grow. But I'm also at a cross because I wanted to order some White Widow and AK 47. I want one helluva first grow, you know, like that first piece of pussy?! The response to this thread(collectively)will be my decision. Thanks to all!
     
  2. Storm Crow

    Storm Crow Registered+

    My advice......

    Is to keep it simple! Go with good potting mix and bag seed. If you goof it up, you won't be kicking yourself until next Sunday because you just murdered $150 worth of seedlings! Or had to flush a mess of expensive, bacteria loaded nutes down the toilet!

    Dirt is easier and plants have been growing in it for millions of years! Add a few worms to keep the soil healthy. If you see a wiggly worm or two when you transplant, all is well. If the worms are all dead- something is wrong.

    And unless you make a habit of smoking dirt weed/ schwag, your seeds have good genetics! It is more of an adventure growing out bag seed. Indicas, sativas and all stops in between! :D

    Your chances of getting a hermie are slightly higher with bag seed, but are you going to be a lazy grower, or one who checks their plants every day? The truth is, I have never gotten a hermie with bag seed, but I have with "name brand" seeds. And since I have my head in the closet on a daily basis, the hermies never had a chance to make unwanted seeds!

    As for why not hydro- just read the threads! Ph problems, slime on the roots, parts per million,and all that jazz! :wtf: I'll stick to dirt! Simple and closer to natural. - Granny:hippy:
     
  3. the image reaper

    the image reaper Registered+

    my plants grew wonderfully from bagseed, in fact, I never had a problem until I started growing high-dollar seeds ... I strongly suspect extensive inbreeding makes the 'designer-seeds' more sensitive to stress, etc (just my personal suspicions) ... either way, keep it simple, don't 'over-love' your plants ... it is a WEED, and is hard to kill ... but, we growers manage to kill them anyway, from over-doing water, nutrients etc ... ... just imitate nature, nature does not 'baby' the plants ... stay with soil grows for now ... I grew for 41 years in soil, and am doing my first hydro grow right now ... (it's a damned good thing I raised them in soil for a long time, because hydro is a whole new ballgame :wtf:) ... good luck :thumbsup:
     
  4. psychocat

    psychocat Registered+

    I am with you guys , soil is so much easier and very low maintenance compared to hydro.
     
  5. Dutch Pimp

    Dutch Pimp Up in Smoke

    Soil...first!

    and get yourself a complete growguide...and just follow the yellowbrick road......:thumbsup:
     
  6. brad1028

    brad1028 Registered+

    - another vote for soil here
     
  7. Mrs. Greenjeans

    Mrs. Greenjeans Registered+

    Dirty guuuurrrl chiming in

    All my grows have been soil. I'm considering getting my feet wet on a small scale, but dirt is the shit. So to speak;)
     
  8. stinkyattic

    stinkyattic CultiModerVatorAtor

    Read the link in my signature.
    A rubbermaid tub grow- completely contained WITHIN the tub, or using it as a DWC?
    Go for compost n perlite.... good times.
    I'm moving this to the growing section...
     
  9. romdog11

    romdog11 Registered+

    ok i will tell you a few things that made my first grow suck. first off you need a ec ppm meter. i have the blue lab truncheon meter and it works wonders. since i have had my meter no i have had no problems with feedings. second you need a good ph meter as well. i have an oakton meter which is doing a great job also. third get some hot shot no pest strips in your grow area. i had mites and gnats my first grow and they ruined everything. since ive been using the no pest strips i dont have mites or gnats. from my experience those things i listed are THE most important when starting a first grow. as for whether soil or hydro i go soil. if you use soil buy some fox farm ocean fresh soil and some fox farm light warrior soil and mix the two. your plants will love you because of it.
     
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2007
  10. M.B.A.

    M.B.A. Registered+

    i went soil, its simple
     
  11. stinkyattic

    stinkyattic CultiModerVatorAtor

    You don't need an EC meter if you grow in soil.
    It's much more forgiving.
     
  12. 4osiris

    4osiris Registered+

    Thanks stinky. I was thinking the same thing. That's the whole purpose of going soil so that I don't set myself up for failure with all the gadgetries.

    Thanks to all! It's on and popping!
     
  13. BigWeed

    BigWeed Registered+

    Soil baby soil you cant go wrong the first time with soil. Dont get that Miracle grow crap it sucks.
     
  14. romdog11

    romdog11 Registered+

    you NEED an ec meter in soil so you know how much your feeding your plants. i didnt have one and i was burning my plants then taking away the nutes and they had defeciences. trust me you WANT to know what your giving your plants.
     
  15. fatal1

    fatal1 Registered

    I originally planned on never posting when registered on this forum. But I would like to tell you guy's thanks. I plan on starting my first grow next year but until then I'm soaking up a great deal of information here. Again thanks.
     
  16. babystarbud

    babystarbud Registered+

    well, thats not really true, as long as you use a mild soil, keep your PH in check thru carefull feeding and occasional flushing you wont go far wrong.
     
  17. stinkyattic

    stinkyattic CultiModerVatorAtor

    I've been growing without an EC meter... even in hydro... I took my source water to the hydro shop for a test to make sure it's not all hard and nasty, it's fine; now I go by the way the plants look.
    Scorch? Flush the soil ones, back off on the nutes on the hydro ones.
    Hungry? Feed em!
    I'll be getting an EC meter for my hydro experiments when I have the cash, but for now everyone is doing aight. It's a necessity in hydro when you are dialing in the nutes for max yield.
     
  18. xcrispi

    xcrispi Registered+

    I had my head in the dirt for the 1st. 15 yrs. I grew .

    Try dirt first - if you have probs. or give up = your not out a ton of money . Look at all the used gear on ebay , either alot of ppl. give up real easy - or maybe alot of ppl. are good at this and they're hobby grows just as fast as their plants ?

    I Been doing hydro for 3-4 yrs now and I still have never chkd. E.C ?
    Peace
    Crispi :jointsmile:
     
  19. romdog11

    romdog11 Registered+

    isnt your ec just another way of saying ppms? my meter has both ppms ec and something else i dont use. but it really helps me when im doing my ppms. i recently added big bud and i just added enough ppms to kind of kick in and i noticed it burnt it ever so slightly. barely even noticable but know i know that ppms with a much more potent thing like big bud is un necessary. but in your case stinky your just pro so people have an instict with plants. me no way. my first couple of grows the plants were feretelizer burned and showing defeceincys it was a mess. but this ec /ppm meter i have has personally helped me out a lot. i pin point my feedings.
     
  20. LaidZeppelin

    LaidZeppelin Registered+

    i tried hydro before soil...BIG MISTAKE...the plant grew fine and i did everything right but its so much work......Soil is so much easier.....just water, light, timer, nutes DONE.. Hydro - change water/nutes, constantly measure PH, keep water temp down, pumps, tubes, airstones...too much nonsense.....it doesnt cut down your grow time to much. Soil is so easy and you get a great product the only draw back is their is alot of dirt around.
     

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