WHO DO YOU WANT FOR PRESIDENT?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Buck Rogers420, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. emilya

    emilya Future Dispensary Owner

    I hear you onjig; the left can say the most outrageous things, and if we on the right call them on it, we are to blame for what ensues.
    No one jumps on the guy with the racist attitude who says that we need illegal aliens so that we have people to clean our toilets and mow our yards... nope, they jump on the conservative for somehow causing the conversation to happen.
    Claiming that Right-speech is harmful and undesired in a forum or at a family dinner table is one of the more common tactics that the left uses to shut down the arguments they can not win. The tactic works amazingly well, because the left has made the opposition of anything on the right into an artform, and they try to do everything they can to make it seem that all of the arguments and all of the bad feelings come from the right. The negative hatemongers get very loud and insistent when they sense that they outnumber the few conservatives willing to risk the open confrontation and personal, nasty and hateful arguments the left always creates, and they love to make it seem like they outnumber conservatives by a large margin because by using these bullying tactics they can shout down the opposition.
    The hateful left does not outnumber the right, and I offer the last election as proof. The minority makes up for their numerical deficit by using personal attacks, emotion, lies and hate to drive their message, and oftentimes this almost religious zeal for their hateful message along with their unwillingness to respond to questions about their facts accomplishes its goal to shut up the opposition.
    So here Plumber jumps in to say tsk tsk... this forum is for pot growing talk, not politics, yet, I have to remind him that this conversation was started by someone with the stated intent to talk about politics and it has been going on since well before the election. Tsk Tsk indeed... if you don't want to think about the topic, don't open the thread and please for your own sanity stay in the grow forums. If you don't want to hear other people's views, don't pontificate regarding political topics. If you don't want to hear opposing views, don't state any opinion on an open forum, because by doing so you are inviting responses on both sides. If you get called out for saying stupid things, that is all part of the game. Grow a pair and dive in if you can handle it, but don't ever be so sanctimonious that you feel the need to demand that no one be allowed to have the conversation.
    Someone called this Trolling. Trolling would be if I jumped on your grow log and ended my comment with #MAGA. That would be rude and you will not find me trolling your threads, ever... although many have found it necessary to troll my threads over the years. Responding to a political forum is not trolling, by any definition of the term.
    So no, please don't anyone get the impression that the liberal hate filled responses to my honestly held views has stopped me from commenting. Hardly. I have appreciated the few positive comments and those who respectfully disagree with me, it is that reasoned dissent that makes our system work. #MAGA
     
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  2. Plumber07

    Plumber07 Registered+

    I am (a little?) right of Attila the Hun. I meant what I said. Yahoo has a great comment section. I have a lot of fun with liberals. I was one of the founding members of the dreaded Digg Patriots. Look it up. There's a time and a place for everything. Here is the place to celebrate herb, not socialism vs conservatism.
     
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  3. onjig

    onjig Registered+

    I get what you say Plumber ~ but ~ I like the expression : "Eat the Bread and Salt ~ but Speak your piece " ```

    Our ranches are out and away from cities ~ all I hear of politics ~ is on the radio ~ and on the internet ~ there is no ~speaking up to a radio ~ here on the net ~ socialistic/communistic banter is ~ past around ~ as if Gospel ~ everywhere ~ even on garden forms ~ everywhere ~ I've been scolded and kicked off sites ~ for describing our family ethnic ~ Christmas or Easter ``` We can't talk about that here ~ you can't say that here ```

    No ~ but ~ they can ~ and do ~ even on political sites ~ there is an intimation ~ that you ~ may not ~ talk/discuss that side of politics ```

    Well ~ Plumber ~ are you a plumber ~ I've worked as a plumber ~ I'm a journey man ~ never been in the plumbers union ``` Happy to meet you ~ by th by ```

    onjig
     
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  4. Plumber07

    Plumber07 Registered+

    Been a plumber for almost 40 years. I've run my own business for the past 15 years. Never union. I help people, fair pricing, quality work and warranty everything I do. Number one on Yelp in my area. Nothing like good honest work.
     
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  5. emilya

    emilya Future Dispensary Owner

    BonBon... you are an ass. Go ahead... give me another dumb rating on this one. Go back through my history and hit dumb on every word I have ever said. You still will not get me to shut up.
     
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  6. Weezard

    Weezard Registered+

    You know that I strongly disagree with your political opinions.
    But dumb? Nope, not hardly.
    As for your new troll?
    Well, I'm sure that you can learn more from Bonbon than Bonbon will ever be able to learn from you, yah? :)
    Carry on my conservative friend.

    Weeze
     
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  7. onjig

    onjig Registered+


    I remember packing Okem , ( how ever you spell it ) pouring lead , and tapping the lead in ~ on cast iron fittings on wast lines ```
     
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  8. onjig

    onjig Registered+

    Hi Emilya ~ Good to see you here ~ or ~ anywhere ``` Glad to have met you ```


    onjig
     
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  9. Weezard

    Weezard Registered+


    Oh yeah!
    And you haven't lived until you install an ancient commode and learn how to "wipe a lead bend". :D
     
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  10. onjig

    onjig Registered+

    A Closet Bend ```
     
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  11. TomSawyer2112

    TomSawyer2112 Registered+

    I’m over here giggling because you gotta know the liberals heads exploded when he got nominated for the 2019 Nobel Peace Prize earlier today!
     
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  12. Weezard

    Weezard Registered+

    Now all he has to do is earn it.
    Here's hoping. :)
     
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  13. TomSawyer2112

    TomSawyer2112 Registered+

    Well. It was the South Korean President who publically recommended President Trump for the Nobel so he is someone whom obviously thinks Donald already has earned it. But what do I know? I’m just a retired smelly fellow firefighter.:rolleyes:
     
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  14. emilya

    emilya Future Dispensary Owner

    His predecessor came in with nothing but hope and he got honored with a Peace Prize. No peace resulted, things just got worse. Trump is likely to solve the Korean problem, the Syria problem, the China problem and the middle east problem, all in his first term, and in doing so will stabilize the world in a way that has never been seen before... but no one on the left seems to be willing to give Trump any credit for any of these things. Same with the economy... it couldn't be Trump causing the lowest recorded unemployment rates and the remarkable rise in the GDP... it has to have been something that Obama did to cause it. Keep hoping my friend... hope springs eternal.
    My hope is that the Dems keep talking about repealing tax cuts and proposing communistic government welfare for everyone. Meanwhile, those who have the drive, or dare I say, the American spirit, are rising rapidly in this expanding economy and they have hopes too... hopes that we never go back to having to face a leader who has a hope of fundamentally changing America again. We tried it his way, and it didnt work, and now everyone is mad at anyone different than them, mad at statues, mad at men, mad at everyone... and on top of that things stagnated economically. By design (economic easing) people got poorer and so divided that we almost begged for total government control where we would have lost our society to a long predicted big brother Orwellian control.
    Only a few can see how dangerously close we came to losing this special place we call America and whether you believe that America was being taken over by its Government or not, many of us do. Those who can see and understand what almost happened have hopes too... hopes that we never fail to heed the warnings that our founders gave us by predicting that this would happen. Thankfully, our constitution is still intact, but we were literally one election away from losing it. You might think this overly dramatic, but my response to you is that without people like me, people who saw what was happening and came out in numbers sufficient to beat the unfair advantage the Democrats have built into the electoral college process, we would no longer be a free people. You don't have to believe what I say here, but you have to approach this conversation knowing that I do. You can thank us for saving America later... once you fully understand how deeply corrupted this government became. The truth will slowly come out.

    So continue hating on Trump and believing that all things right wing are evil... One by one, people all over this nation are waking up and realizing that there is a better way than relying on society to make a living for you. Forget relying on an inefficient government to provide everything you need... the quality of life is much better for the person who picks himself up, educates himself and gets a good job. One by one, people disillusioned by Hope and Change, are finding value again in the American dream. These people will not be willing to give up what they have gained and when it comes time to vote they will vote with their wallets. The quality of life is rising rapidly in America and it is because we stood up en masse and elected Trump and his idea of draining the swamp and getting rid of corruption. We, the once again hopeful, are seeing that the rewards that come from cleaning up corruption and shrinking the bureaucracy that has been choking us; our lives get dramatically better. Suddenly we have money for a few extra things and we can plan for our futures, or by definition, we find that we have room to hope for something more.
    So I like what you say dear old friend... keep hoping. When you see your hopes become realized, think back to this conversation and to where that hope first became possible... It started with a defiant ride down an escalator by a man who said he wanted to fix things. You will see how many happy people enjoying good pay and a happy life believe him to be the source of this newfound hope on November 6. At some point even a reluctant person is simply going to have accept what is playing out in front of him as real, despite what his naysayers try to get you to believe.
     
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  15. onjig

    onjig Registered+

    We'll see ~ hope he has stopped the flow of arms to the Crazies ~ be nice if he stopped our allies from attacking Syria, the Syrian People and their Government ```

    But , I voted for him ~ Mr President get U.S. out of Syria ``` There should be no fighting force in Syria ~ except the Syrians and those they invite ```

    Not ISIS , Israel, Turkey, French , British or German or Moderate Muslims Jihadist ~ there are no Moderate Muslim Armed killers ```
     
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  16. TomSawyer2112

    TomSawyer2112 Registered+

    Emilya just knocked the stitches out of that baseball and sent it out of the park!
    Emilya, will you wanna get married? Hahaha! Just kidding. A brilliant mind like yours, you gotta already be hitched to some lucky guy!
     
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  17. onjig

    onjig Registered+

    Yep, she's good ```
     
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  18. bonbon

    bonbon Registered+

    hey there baby girl !
    don't get emotional just because every legitimate news cycle contradicts your hopelessly trumpified infatuation with misinformation of this administrations cavalcade of corruption & blunders.
    leave the cult now before you end up drinking the laced kkk-kool-aid.[​IMG]
     
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  19. TomSawyer2112

    TomSawyer2112 Registered+

    Insults don’t fly well here.
    I would imagine your comment would be seen as abusive and bullying. Everyone has personal opinions. But those that demean or put down members shouldn’t be made public.
    You should be ashamed of yourself.
     
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  20. onjig

    onjig Registered+

    Hi ~ Well, President Trump is doing a fine job ~ redoing deals that were made against our best interests ~ so we can make a buck and not increase the national debt ~ protecting our industry and bringing some back ~ and close that border it's hurting us ``` The communist left is jumping up and down as are the life time politicians ~ but we had our choice for once ``` The American People chose this man ~ over and against the intentions of both parties ~ so ~ Onward Mr. President ~ go get em Trumpy Bear ~ we're with you ```
    Long live America ~ Great Again sounds good to me ```


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