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Hey Herbalairers!

I thought I'd start a page where we can contribute our reviews, opinions and tips for this great device.

Before I start, I know that there are many bogus "reviews" out there. I am in no way affiliated with any vapor company. I'm an average, erb loving peaceful father and husband. For reasons I describe later, I just want to contribute to the vapor revolution.

I'll start.....

I've had my Herbalaire for a week now. I used to smoke daily. Then I started to use a bong because I wanted to be healthier. However, now that I've found vaping, I'll never go back.
I started my vaping experience with a knock off of a Vapor Brothers whip style vape. I tried it for a month and still wasn't satisfied. I just couldn't seem to find the right temps, as there was no temp gauge on the dial. I found my vapor to be smoky, rather than vapor. Or sometimes I would get no vapor at all. I was getting an effect but it was a big effort and I rarely felt like I was really vaping.

Until now. As I mentioned, I've had my Herbalaire for a week now. It heats up FAST. Let's say 2 minutes MAX MAX MAX. Put the crucible (bowl) in the unit. Once it's warm, start inhaling the good vapors. You can also use the bags and air pump too like a Volcano but I like the direct inhale method.

I find that vaping gives me a nice clean high. My cough is gone and my lungs feel great already (although I started feeling better when i started vaping, not because of the Herbalaire). I'm just sad I didn't discover vaping sooner. I still like taking a rip off the bong once in a while when I feel like getting that stoner / couch lock feeling. Unfortunately, I find my mouth and breath taste like an ashtray when I'm done. It's quite disgusting now but I still like the feeling it gives me once and a while.

Here are my tips / cmments so far:
- Put the fresh, unground erb into the crucible and leave it in there for approx 1-2 minutes before you start. You can grind it up but I seem to have better results when the erb is whole.
- I put 2, or maximum 3, pea-sized pieces in the crucible. I get a nice vapor with that amount. I find I use a little more erb than in a bong but I think it's worth it to be healthier and cut out the smoking and carcinogens.
- For direct inhalation, I like to start with 335 to get the flavor of the erb. I can see vapor at that temp. I'll get 2 breaths and then move up 10 degrees. I keep doing this until I get to 375. That's the highest temp I'll do. They say 392 is when the chemical are significant, so I stay on the safe side.
- For the bag method, I just haven't used it enough to have any tips. I can say this....the bag method works great, I just prefer the direct inhale. Too much clutter with the bags and pump.
- I find that the mouthpice extension gets hot at temps above 355 or 360 when inhaling directly. It's unfortunate. I tried a straw on the end of the extension piece but the straw still got hot. The air is definitely cooler though when you use the straw. I find the vapor a little thinner this way though. Not sure why. I need to test it more.
- Watch out for the crucible. It gets super hot for obvious reasons but cools down FAST. Within a minute or 2. Try to get an extra one if you can so you can reload quickly if need be.
- The pump is slow and a little bit noisy. Easily replaceable though. Only affects you if you prefer the bag method, which many do I've read.
- I basically keep going until my erb is a light chocolate brown or when there's no more vapors at 375. It can also smell of burnt popcorn when it's used up.
- I don't cook with the leftovers but I understand you can use them to cook. Or you can smoke them but that kind of defeats the purpose.
- I also love that there is no smell from vaping. Maybe the air in the room smells a tiny bit like burnt popcorn but nothing even close to smoking. You smell of nothing when you're done either, unlike smoking.
- This whole process does take a little longer than using a bong but no longer than rolling and smoking would take you.

That's about it. I'd like to thank this community because I discovered vaping in this forum and your views and opnions helped me be healthier. I can't thank you all enough for your contributions. I hope my contributions will help some of you too. I'd also like to thank the makers of Herbalaire. While it's not perfect (yet), it's really close and I believe this product will become perfect when further revisions are made.

Anyone else have an Herbalaire and want to contribute to this thread?
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Geez, tough crowd....

Ok, well, I'll contribute some more to this thread....

After some more testing, I'll add the following:

- At lower temps like 335 or 345, sometimes it takes a few breaths to get vapor. Because I'm using direct inhale, I think it's just a matter of heating up the erb. Anyways, sometimes I get vapor by the second breath, sometime it takes 3 or 4 breaths to get the vapors flowing. Either way, I always get vapors at these temps.
- I'm still very happy using the direct inhale method. I had a problem with the extension piece on the mouthpiece getting really hot when I am inhaling. So I took the extension off the mouthpiece. Now I just use the mouthpiece. It's a little bigger but it never gets too hot. I take some pretty deep breaths and the mouthpiece doesn't burn my lips at all, unlike the extension.
- I find my self using the bag system when I get all I can from the direct inhale method. I can usually get a bag full of vapors at the end, so I maximize my erb.
- I seem to get my best results from fitting the largest WHOLE PIECE of erb in the crucible that I can fit in there. The crucible is fairly small and I've found the biggest piece I can fit in there is about the size of 2 peas, maybe 3, tops. Again, very important to NOT break up or grind the erb. Give it a stir halfway through the process, maybe even break it up a little, but try to keep it all in one piece.
- I've been smokin this stuff for 10 years. The vaping takes a little getting used to but I'm really beginning to like this high over the smoking method. I find that the high lasts much longer than smoking. I found myself wanting to smoke again after an hour or so. With vaping, I don't feel I need to vape again for maybe 2 or 3 hours.
- I have used this every night for a week and a half now. I feel sooooo much better in the morning. Especially my chest. It just feels clear now, instead of that heavy feeling in my lungs.

That's about all for now. I would love to hear any input from other Herbalaire owners. If not, I'll keep posting my observations. I'm sure there are some of you reading my posts that just don't wanna contribute. I was always like that too but since I got this thing, I just can't help but post my excitement about it.
Happy Vaping!
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I don't have a herbalaire, but i do have a vaporizer, its a whip one like you used to have. Its a bit touchy but I like it. I used to use it all the time, then i got a 4 chamber bubbler so ive been using her... idk what else to contribute, but vaping is cool. although its near impossible to do w/ a group as most people can't seem to work the thing
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1st post :) Hi

I dont smike either, I use bongs at the moment but of course they kill my lungs.
Thinking about getting a Herbalaire but with living in England & not having much money I am forced to use only solid product as opposed to fresh erb's.
Now does anybody have any idea if vaporizers can deal with this sort of product?
& also, having read many reviews on vaporizing I still cant get a clear picture of what the effects are like, I like the bong heavyness, You know, I like to be wrecked at night & I hear its just not the same, in fact some say its rather difficult to know if You've got a hit or not, this worries me as $250 dollars is actually a hell of a lot of money for me.
Anyway, Thanks very much in advance
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iv heard these operate like vaolcanos but do they really compare at all. im thinkin of just saven up the $550 but id rather pay 275 for one of these.
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I've never used the Volcano but I just can't imagine anything better than the Herbalaire. I use the direct inhale and it works a million times better than the whip method. The bag system is slower than the volcano but that could be fixed with getting a faster pump. I believe that the Herbalaire is a better product than the Volcano because it gives you 2 ways to vape, instead of just one. It's also half the price.
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I am forced to use only solid product as opposed to fresh erb's.
Now does anybody have any idea if vaporizers can deal with this sort of product?[/b] & also, having read many reviews on vaporizing I still cant get a clear picture of what the effects are like, I like the bong heavyness, You know, I like to be wrecked at night & I hear its just not the same, in fact some say its rather difficult to know if You've got a hit or not, this worries me as $250 dollars is actually a hell of a lot of money for me.
Anyway, Thanks very much in advance
Kev
The herbalAire is most efficient and will vape solid as well as any vape on the market and better than most. I would use small pieces though, and not just toss a big chunk in.

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Bong, pipe, joint, whatever-the difference is not so much in the smoke delivery system as the fact that it's smoke. I assume that by "heavyness" you mean lethargy, stupor, couchlock. The big contributors to this effect are toxins, mainly carbon monoxide and benzene, that are released at high vaping temps and with smoke. Too much of either one of these highly poisonous compounds will put you to sleep permanently. Some people also prefer moonshine to legally (and safely) produced booze. They like the extra 'kick' they get from methanol or other poisons. Vaporizing in the 'safe' temp range will avoid most toxins and your high will have much less of the sleepy effect. Many people have noted (including me) that their first good high from a vape was as good or better than any smoking session they ever had. But it's definitely a high that lets you retain more energy than a smoking high.

As for not being sure if you got a hit, that's just a result of the smooth and cool vapor vs. harsh smoke. I certainly don't need to choke on smoke to know I got a good dose of THC. I put smoke in my lungs for a lot of years, to the point where I was ready to quit getting high to avoid hurting my lungs. Just couldn't take the smoke anymore.

So if smoke doesn't bother you, and you enjoy the effect of the poisons in it, then stay with smoking. At least as long as your lungs allow.


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I use the direct inhale and it works a million times better than the whip method.
Not for me. I use my herbalAire almost every day, but I don't enjoy the direct draw. The vapor's too thin. I only use it for a quick hit or two if I'm in a hurry. It doesn't compare IMO to the thick vapor I can get from the SSV or Vapolution. To each his own though. Different tastes make for more choices.
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you can also order it from them directly....
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you can also order it from them directly....
herbalAire - Smokeless Herbal Vaporizer
Yes but why pay $15 more for shipping when you don't have to.
Vaporizers.ca has the best price if you're in Canada, and buy from them on ebay and they include a free grinder.

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Both links are for the same company. Most of the big on-line dealers sell on ebay, usually at a discount and/or with free shipping and/or extras. You won't get the grinder or free shipping buying straight from vaporizers.ca, only through their ebay auctions.

Since the manufacturer ships it in a brown box, I would think you'd get the same from a dealer. There's no big label or anything on the box. If you're worried about someone asking about the box or the sender's address/name, get it delivered to your friend's house.
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I use my herbalAire every day and have been for almost 2 yrs. I don't use it much for direct draw but it heats up in a couple of minutes and you can get some quick hits that way. For bag use it's great. I don't like the thicker bags they're supplying with it now. They won't burst if you overfill, but if you get distracted and forget you're filling a bag the vapor will leak out (like a safety valve). I use Toppits oven bags (Reynolds are cheap too) and make different size bags. It's easier and cheaper to make multiple bags than the Volcano, easier to clean, and just as efficient at extracting THC. It does fill slower than the Volcano, but making smaller bags and switching them off compensates. It's got a separate pump so there's more 'stuff' to deal with, but it's not a big deal to me. The pump is pretty quiet and if it should fail just buy an aquarium pump.
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Great choice....you're gonna love it....
I've had mine for a couple of months now and use it everyday....I now find myself starting at 355 until there is no more vapor, then I break it up a little and turn up the heat to 360....I keep doing this routine until I get to 370....it always comes out a medium brown and I'm always cooked afterwards....I use 2 pea sized pieces (do not grind them) and it fills the crucible about halfway....I've smoked a couple of times with a bong since I started using it and I'm just disgusted by the taste and smell of smoke now....I can't imagine life without a vaporizer now...my lungs and health have improved dramatically since I stopped smoking.
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I use 2 pea sized pieces (do not grind them) and it fills the crucible about halfway
Those are some big peas . How much you use is personal choice according to bag size, number of bags and users, etc., but your warning about not grinding is worth repeating. Not only is it totally unnessary to grind for the herbalAire (it's extremely efficient at penetrating and vaporizing the bud), it's better to use pieces so that no finely ground herb gets either down below the heating chamber or up into or past the screen.
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Greetings My Fellow Friends....

I am 49 years of age and have smoked the MJ Herb for nearly 35 years. The last few years have been hard on my lungs and I have constant bouts with chronic bronchitis.

I have a very stressful job and I have always relied upon having high quality smoke available to relieve the stress. I grow my own herb and am very pleased with it's quality. However, even with using the best bong in the world, I still get sinus infections and my bronchitis eventually begins to act up...it is not pleasant to say the least...

Therefore, I intend to order the HerbalAire early next week from a particular distributor in California. They are on back order and should arrive sometime next week....

I have never Vaporizied before and am hoping that I am making a good choice for the money. The Volcano is a little too much for me to spend at this time.

Also, I wanted to know from some old timers if there is any compromise with the mellow high that one receives from smoking good herb? It appears that if I do not smoke in a few days, I really have a hard time sleeping and become irratible to some extent. Will the high be compromised and be less pleasant that smoking?

Please if someone could advise me in regard to my concerns and choice of Vaporizer it would be really appreciated...

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I am 49 years of age and have smoked the MJ Herb for nearly 35 years. The last few years have been hard on my lungs and I have constant bouts with chronic bronchitis.
You will love vapor in comparison to smoke. I had bad bouts of bronchitis when I was a kid, and until the last few years colds would frequently get into my chest and make me miserable. I quit smoking cigs over ten years ago but mj smoke was bothering me to the point where I thought I'd have to give up weed entirely. Vapor is sooo much easier on the lungs. No more smoker's cough, I've got a lot more wind for exercise-I love it.

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Yes you made a good choice. I've been using mine for almost two years. HerbalAire has great customer service. It's just as efficient as the Volcano at extracting the good stuff, and although slower to fill a bag, it's cheaper to make and use multiple bags. Set it for about 370 and all your herb will end up fully cooked-brown and crispy. I use different sized bags. I usually fill a small one first and suck on that while another is filling. I recommend getting some extras. I've got extra main mouthpieces (not a good name-you don't put your mouth on it), extensions, and crucibles (bowls), so I can always swap out for clean ones. Crucibles can go for years without needing to be cleaned, but they're easy to accidentally squash, at least for me. The only part I soak in alcohol is the main mouthpiece (for the screen). If you clean the heating chamber with alcohol, make sure you turn the unit upside down, unplug, and leave it for a few min. to dry. You don't want any kind of liquid to get down below the chamber.

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Also, I wanted to know from some old timers if there is any compromise with the mellow high that one receives from smoking good herb? It appears that if I do not smoke in a few days, I really have a hard time sleeping and become irratible to some extent. Will the high be compromised and be less pleasant that smoking?
Vapor doesn't suck the energy out of you nearly as much as smoking. It's a cleaner high, avoiding sleep inducing toxins. So although vaping just before bedtime doesn't really keep me awake, it does often delay me from going to bed. I find that a couple of hours after a vaping session I'm sleepy and ready to crash for the night.
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Just unpacked my new HerbalAire..........everything looks pretty good.....will let you know how it works. This is my second vaporizer, after reading all the posts here I decided on the HerbalAire.
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ok, so here is my review of the HerbalAire, which btw is a really long name to type.........
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is it a good idea to use burned weed? You know when you roach joints, then you take the remaining weed out and vape that? is that good for you? i have couple of roaches here for a rainy day.
You could but I wouldn't recommend it in your new herbalAire. It could get a little messy and the taste would be pretty bad. I wouldn't used finely ground weed in it either, at least not without an additional screen in the bottom of the crucible and another near the top. You don't want little particles getting below the heat chamber or up into the screen on the main mouthpiece and even into your bag. This vape will do great with small pieces and that's what I'd use if possible. The herbalAire is a fine piece of equipment and should last for many, many years....if you take care of it.

If you want to vape roaches I suggest a cheap glass vape like the Vapolution Pocket Vaporizer or the Ubie. Even better use a pipe and smoke 'em.
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Careful with the crucible. It's squashable. I've stepped on a couple. Luckily I bought extras. And if the bags are like the ones they were using 6-8 months ago, they're pretty thick and won't burst if you overfill, but they'll leak vapor and air when full like a safety valve if you let it fill too long.
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