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Old Oct-22-2009, 14:38
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Bag VS Whip, Volcano VS ????

Cost aside, what is the best vaporizer around? I've been looking at purchasing a Volcano, but I am unsure of how good the bag system is. What would happen if the company went under and I couldn't get replacement bags?

I would also like one that isn't going to introduce new toxins into the mix because of bad workmanship.

Where is a reliable place to buy one in Canada?

Thanks in advance for all your help.
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Old Oct-22-2009, 21:19
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I dont see volcano "going under" anytime soon, and even if they did there are lots of diy replacement bag techniques on these boards
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Old Oct-23-2009, 15:36
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Cost aside, what is the best vaporizer around?
Answer: There is no one best vaporizer. There are many that do certain things really well, but none that do them all better than any other.

This is not an opinion, but an irrefutable fact.

So, in order to answer your question, you need to nail down your needs and priorities.

Is this gonna be used as a party vape, or primarily a personal vape.
What's more important to you, efficiency or getting huge bong like vapor rips.
Is it going to be primarily used at home or when you're out and about.
How important is the stealth factor.
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Previous post hit it, but I will give two thumbs up for the volcano. You just can't go wrong with it, period.
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You just can't go wrong with it, period.
You can if you want efficiency 'cause there's more efficient vapes out there than the 'Cano.

Also, if you like a very thick super rich high vapor to air ratio hits, there are other vapes that can do that better than the Cano also.

There are also vapes out there that have a higher stealth factor than the Volcano.

So yeah, you CAN go wrong with it if the above things are VERY important to you. That being said, the Volcano is a very good vape, ESPECIALLY in party situations. Hands down, the best party vape on the market.
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Old Oct-24-2009, 01:37
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Answer: There is no one best vaporizer. There are many that do certain things really well, but none that do them all better than any other.

This is not an opinion, but an irrefutable fact.

So, in order to answer your question, you need to nail down your needs and priorities.

Is this gonna be used as a party vape, or primarily a personal vape.
What's more important to you, efficiency or getting huge bong like vapor rips.
Is it going to be primarily used at home or when you're out and about.
How important is the stealth factor.
I would like to use it for both a party vape and a personal one.
I would like both efficiency and bong like rips.
Only used at home.
Stealth is very important, don't want the kids to smell it.
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I would like both efficiency and bong like rips.
lol.........me too, but it's a compromise. A vape that will give you bong like rips does so at the sake of efficiency and visa versa.

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Stealth is very important, don't want the kids to smell it.
What about looks. Would you like to have a vape that you could leave out on the coffee table without anyone knowing that it is a vaporizer, but instead, an aromatherapy device?

Regarding smell, the smaller the bowl, the less it will smell.

If you really want to do all the things you mentioned, you need to get two vapes.

Here's what I have. I use the Purple Days as my daily workhorse because it is the most efficient vape on the planet...........but, I pull out my Da Buddha when I want a bong like rip or when I want to use it for a party. Also, the PD is very stealth in that it looks like a wooden coke can that is actually an aromatherapy device as well as having the smallest bowl of any vape on the market which means that it will smell less than any vape on the market. And unlike the Volcano, the Purple Days and the Buddha are totally silent.

There is no vape on the market that is both as efficient as the Purple Days while providing a bong like rip like the Buddha can provide.

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Is the purple days a quality built machine? I don't want to have to worry about other toxins.
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Also, same question for da budda.

Is the purple days good enough for 2 people?
How does da budda compare to the volcano for parties?
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Is the purple days a quality built machine? I don't want to have to worry about other toxins.
TOTALLY RoHS compliant. One of the only vapes on the market that is.

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Also, same question for da budda.

Is the purple days good enough for 2 people?
How does da budda compare to the volcano for parties?
The Da Buddha is not RoHS compliant, but is considered a very safe vape.
Yes the PD is good enough for 2 people.
In a party situation, a bag type vape like the 'Cano would be a better choice because it takes all the user error out of the equation. With whip type vapes like the Buddha, there is a bit of a learning curve.
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for the Puple-Days. Every vape fan needs a PD.

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Bag delivery is a no brainer. Just fill and suck. The DBV, with its hands free connection, takes care to avoid having newbies bust your wand with careless use.

If you want bag delivery, I highly recommend the herbalAire or Extreme over the Volcano. You can get either one (if you shop around), plus a PD, plus a Magic Flight Launch Box for portable use, all for about 20 bucks less than a Volcano Classic. I've got the herbalAire and it fills bags just as well as the Volcano, just takes longer to fill. The 'cano fills bags in a hurry, so it's a better party vape, but damn that's a lot of money just to cater to your friends.
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Old Oct-26-2009, 23:17
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OK, thanks for all the help guys. I'm going to go with a Purple Days for the solo events and I'll do some further research into either the Herbalaire or the Volcano. I've read good things on all three of those products, so I'm not too worried about purchasing any of them. Thanks for selling me on the bag system, wasn't too sure before why they were a good thing.

One last question: Where is a reputable source, preferably in Canada, to purchase? US source is fine if they are willing to ship via USPS.

Again, thanks for all the input.
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Source for which vape? The PD you can only get from vapenow.com, and they do ship to Canada (there is a wait time for delivery, currently 6-9 weeks-worth the wait though). They also sell the other vapes you mention. Any US vendor or manufacturer will be shipping postal to Canada. Rockwise.net (Canadian) is your best bet for the Extreme. Vaporize.ca and Vaporizers.ca are both good Canadian dealers. The latter has been in business a lot longer. Also check eBay. These dealers and others sell there and you'll usually save a few bucks by going through eBay.
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I don't dissagree there might not be other good vape's out there. But for how long will others work should be taken into account. What I mean by you can't go wrong is it's like buying a toyota. It might not have the most power etc. but it will do what it's build to do, and well, for a long time. You can't say that for all vapes.
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But for how long will others work should be taken into account.
Well, 7th Floor has a Silver Surfer that's been running for about 8 years non stop. Simple passive whip vapes really only have the heater and temp control to worry about, and quite a few models have a lifetime heater warranty.

There are any number of vapes in the $150 price range I could buy and replace a couple of times and still not pay as much as one Volcano would cost. And you have to buy bags as well. Not to mention the cost of a 2nd valve or multiple Easy Valves/bags if you want to have more than one bag handy.

Toyota? The 'cano's more like a Mercedes. My herbalAire, at less than half the price of the 'cano, is more like a Toyota. And it's going strong after 3 yrs. of use.

The Volcano's a great vape, but the idea that cheaper vapes aren't reliable and don't hold up just isn't true, for the most part. You can't expect a 'made in China', no warranty clone to last, but good brand names have warranties of 2-5 years. S&B even cut the warranty back to 2 yrs. on the Digit.
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u can get bags any here for a volcano most sopermarkets have them there oven bags for turkys o chicken ither way its the same manufacturer that makes thebags for both

as for Storz & Bickel there company is huge as thay also make other medical products

quite simply there is no other vap that comes close to the volcano its way ahead of every other on the market

Storz & Bickel, the manufacturer of the Volcano Vaporizer

canadian Medical Association use it for teasting

the service from storz-bickel is exelnt i have had to send mine back as my volcano (witch i stupidly left on the bed) fell of hiting the floor hard to my dismay it still powerd up and the fan still worked but the fall dameged the heating eliment ither way i sent it back expecting a big bill but i got a replacment free of charge and it was back with in ten days all it cost me was the shiping there
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quite simply there is no other vap that comes close to the volcano its way ahead of every other on the market

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Total bullshit. There are other vapes of much newer design, that in some aspects, are WAY ahead of the Volcano.

There just too many people out there that have drank the 'Cano Kool-Aid and have been totally blinded by some of the advances that have been made since the Volcano first came to market.

If ya like sucking on bags, get the Volcano, but before any of you do, make sure you do some research into some of the other great vapes that are on the market and that sell for a WHOLE bunch less and that in some categories, just blow the 'Cano out of the water.

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lwein123-throw down a list of the vapes you like best. i have no doubt there are better than the 'cano but i don't know enough to know which ones.
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Silver Surfer
Da Buddha
Purple Days
VaporBros
Aromed
HerbalAire
VripTech Heat Wand
Volcano
Vaporfection

For portable use:
VaporGenie
LaunchBox
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Just buy any vaporizer...don't matter which one. Smoking is old school. Remember in the Civil War when people were operated on without the tools being cleaned? We learned the harm and changed procedures over time. Same here...now we know there can be some harm from smoking and we developed technology to fix it...VAPORIZERS! lol It makes sense to vape over smoke except for nostalgia...better efficiency, better for your health, taste, etc. The health factor alone is enough to convince me.
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I have a Vapor Bros., thats a joke, real piece of flimsy crap, that is a waste of money ... get yourself a 'Herbalizer', theyre great ... it's like an afffordable Volcano, uses both bag & whip ... (I like the bag) ... just google for the Herbalizer ... very solid construction, etc ..
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I have a Vapor Bros., thats a joke, real piece of flimsy crap, that is a waste of money ... get yourself a 'Herbalizer', theyre great ... it's like an afffordable Volcano, uses both bag & whip ... (I like the bag) ... just google for the Herbalizer ... very solid construction, etc ..
The VaporBros is a quality vape and universally gets rave reviews. You're comments above are totally without merit, unless of course, you are referring to many of the cheap Chinese VaporBros knock offs that are being sold on ebay.

What in the hell is an Herbalizer? I googled it and only came up with a company that makes Da Buddha and VaporBros knockoffs.

But being that you said that it does bags and whips, I guess you meant the HerbalAire, which is a fine vape, but it's a jack of all trades and a master at none. The 'Cano does bags better and the Buddha does whips better, but if you want the flexability to do both, it's a good choice.
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The VaporBros is a quality vape and universally gets rave reviews. You're comments above are totally without merit, unless of course, you are referring to many of the cheap Chinese VaporBros knock offs that are being sold on ebay.

What in the hell is an Herbalizer? I googled it and only came up with a company that makes Da Buddha and VaporBros knockoffs.

But being that you said that it does bags and whips, I guess you meant the HerbalAire, which is a fine vape, but it's a jack of all trades and a master at none. The 'Cano does bags better and the Buddha does whips better, but if you want the flexability to do both, it's a good choice.
you're correct, it is the HERBALAIRE, sorry about the confusion, I lost the box years ago ... but, I stand 100% behind my negative opinion of the Vapor Bros. vaporizer, and mine is several years old, no Chinee excuse ... they're a JOKE ...
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i'm curious about your bad experience with the vapor brothers. what went wrong?
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VERY flimsy glassware, extremely delicate, was on its 3rd glass, when I tossed it, and bought an HerbalAire ... also, it's temperature depends as much on strength of your 'intake', as the element itself (a Radio Shack replacement soldering pencil element) ... a little too 'basic' for my tastes ... overall, too much like a 'toy' to keep me using it ... buy one, use one, compare them, it's no contest, just my opinion ... regardless, enjoy
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